It is over. Many believe LLMs are more than regurgitation programs and even think they are doing the world a favour by posting ChatGPT content. Even worse, these models will only become more and more inbred as training goes on.
The internet is slipping out of our reach
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Re: The internet is slipping out of our reach
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. I simply believe that the internet would be superior as a basic service with very limited corporate involvement. I believe the internet would be superior if it were like a basic, government-supplied service so that websites would be created by individuals, and small to medium-sized businesses. It would be more democratic, and it would not have the same problems created by massive networks. No Twitter, no Facebook…
Are you aware that nothing is stopping you from only visiting websites made by individuals, and medium-sized businesses? In fact, you can also choose to use cool things like Google Earth, AND choose not to use shit things like Twitter, Facebook, Google Search etc.
Are you aware that I am not talking about my personal well-being, but the well being of society? I've never had a Facebook, and in fact I visit maybe 3-4 internet sites. I don't engage much personally as I think most of what is on the internet is garbage.
What I mean to imply is that large corporate internet activities are detrimental to society. If all I cared about was myself then I would not even be typing now at all. But I have seen many people negatively affected by corporate internet manipulation and I think it's a bad thing.
Re: The internet is slipping out of our reach
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
The parallel concern - we saw how too open communities just don't work in modern world. Way too many sides have their own 'pitch', be it marketing, politics, propaganda, always to manipulate opinions via emotions to steered goal which is never actual simple truth. Truth doesn't need much marketing among reasonable people. This is how flat earthers, climate change deniers, blind supporters of putin's war on ukraine et…
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Is flat earth a right wing position now?
Re: The internet is slipping out of our reach
#95Someone once asked a question online about what each person's biggest fear was regarding the future of AI generated content. I thought about it. While the fears of not being able to earn money for creative pursuits are a concern, my biggest concern remains around anonymity. At some point, I fear that participating online with other humans will require "proof of self" and as AI becomes more and more able to generate c…
> I fear that participating online with other humans will require "proof of self" I fear something worse: that it WON'T require proof of self, because the LLMs will be able to tell if you're human... and your age, wants, needs, everything else; that's the nightmare scenario for me: LLMs integrating all the little bits and pieces of yourself you shed online, all the information you leak, from the speed your mouse move…
And if they know you better than you know yourself, they can control you better than you can control yourself.
Re: The internet is slipping out of our reach
#96This reads to me like a rant. Good material for a blog post but I don't think there is anything particularly profound going on. The internet is not a static place, and parts are always being born and dying. Maybe today is going to be Google search. There was an interesting question early on in the internet of whether content would be aggregated by corporate entities or whether people would self-host and communicate p…
> unless you're the sort of person who doesn't understand why IRC got marginalised Or X Windows. I still hear the occasional diatribe, on how X is "just as good as" Windows or Mac (usually from a person that pretty much exclusively uses CLI). These folks can't understand why desktop Linux hasn't crushed the Microsoft/Apple hegemony. People who hang in like-minded communities can often assume that "everyone" is just l…
What are you talking about, X just works. I haven't had to go diving in and manually configure X in _years_ and I remember when you had to tell X to treat your mouse wheel as an extra button just to get it to work. And I say this as someone who uses exclusively nvidia GPUs.
The most I have to do is set the monitor layout and KDE/gnome work exactly like windows with a graphical UI.
I get it. You prefer wayland, as do many people. You can push wayland without making things up about X. Honestly, if X fixed the screen tearing issue I'm not sure there would be a strong reason to prefer wayland over it other than technical purity.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are you not using an adblocker if your current experience bothers you?
I do use uBlock Origin. It removes sponsored search results, but it won't do away with the poorly written articles just below. More importantly, not everyone uses an ad-blocker (especially mobile users). If installing a browser extension becomes necessary to deem a browser worthy of use, I would think that's a problem.
the web is nigh-on unusable without an ad-blocker.
When I was young no one really questioned ads in television shows, when I got to uni I kind of stopped watching anything but cable. Then netflix came out and I dropped cable alltogether. Every once in a while I find myself watching television at someone elses house and the constant ads completely destroy any enjoyment of the entertainment, even if I never really questioned it as a kid.
that's how the web is for people who don't run ad-block. They have no idea what it can be.
Re: The internet is slipping out of our reach
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I fear that participating online with other humans will require "proof of self" I fear something worse: that it WON'T require proof of self, because the LLMs will be able to tell if you're human... and your age, wants, needs, everything else; that's the nightmare scenario for me: LLMs integrating all the little bits and pieces of yourself you shed online, all the information you leak, from the speed your mouse move…
This is already happening and has almost nothing to do with llm, this is Google and Facebook business model because these are the marketable details.
I don't think the current systems used by Google and Facebook can integrate and infer new details as well as the LLMs can; LLMs can do more with less.
Re: The internet is slipping out of our reach
#99That is definitely true about search. Google ruined it, like they ruin most things. The more hand-curated style of the old Yahoo was far superior. Yes, Google was superior in search in the short-term, but their automated algorithms came with the inevitable attachment of the future of gaming their algorithms. The modus operandi of Google is to provide a highly-centralized automated service that at first appears superi…
Is this satire?
Translation of what you wrote: "I don't like what you wrote but I can't see how to refute it either."
Re: The internet is slipping out of our reach
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. I simply believe that the internet would be superior as a basic service with very limited corporate involvement. I believe the internet would be superior if it were like a basic, government-supplied service so that websites would be created by individuals, and small to medium-sized businesses. It would be more democratic, and it would not have the same problems created by massive networks. No Twitter, no Facebook…
Are you aware that nothing is stopping you from only visiting websites made by individuals, and medium-sized businesses? In fact, you can also choose to use cool things like Google Earth, AND choose not to use shit things like Twitter, Facebook, Google Search etc.
> Are you aware
Few sentences that start with this clause are emitted in good faith, and yours is certainly not one of them.