Live data from Hacker News

Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

bbc.com

351–360 of 618 posts

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Jon Stewart has a crusade against MSM for their role in the US-Iraq War. Is he dogwhistling to the far right when he uses the term?

Knowledge alone is enough to say thank you. There would be no need to be so careful in saying a simple thank you.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#352
post #95

Is there a pattern? This seems to happen way too often in western corporations. (Here's another example, could give you many more: Suicide of VW whistleblower in 2020: https://www.t-online.de/finanzen/news/unternehmen-verbrauche... - use Google Translate).

Why the 'western' qualifier?

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#354

The emotional strain of being a whistleblower and having your colleagues now see you as the enemy is not something I’ve read about, but it must take a toll. A whistleblower, almost by definition, is a hero to strangers and a villain to those they know and work with. Or he was simply executed like in many corporate espionage movies.

> The emotional strain of being a whistleblower and having your colleagues now see you as the enemy is not something I’ve read about, but it must take a toll. A whistleblower, almost by definition, is a hero to strangers and a villain to those they know and work with.

Hmm I don't know, if I were a whistleblower I wouldn't really care what my colleagues would think. And I'd probably not continue working there anyway. After all I'd hate the company and my colleagues for all the wrongdoing that was the whole reason for the whistleblowing in the first place.

Of course people react very differently. And I'm very much not a team player so I'm pretty insensitive to peer pressure. I'm sorry that this person felt so bad.

> Or he was simply executed like in many corporate espionage movies.

When there's billions in market value on the line I don't think this possibility can be overlooked, no. I don't think it would have happened here but I don't think it's impossible

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#355
post #61

I'm just going to take this story at face value, there's an infinite number of alternate explanations that I'd be powerless to talk about. I've had my own (thankfully brief) moments where I've thought about suicide just from the perception that my coworkers, my bosses, the entire world, just does not care about doing the right thing. Mr Barnett worked for the same company for over three decades and physically watched…

> there's an infinite number of alternate explanations

I see only one reasonably acceptable alternate explanation.

He either committed suicide or was suicided by someone at Boeing terrified about what would happen to them in jail.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#356
Even if it was a suicide, that still doesn't mean it was self-motivated. People who care enough to be whistleblowers, would likely care enough about wellbeing of their family or other people - enough to sacrifice themselves once again under sufficient threats and pressure.

Or, even more likely, end things not because directly being requested to, but because of having no other way to NOT be forced to back out and cower at the very end, and betray themselves and other people.

All of which is unfortunately making it almost trivial for the adversary to steer things into that direction.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#357
post #23

Anyone know why this isn’t on the front page with 96 pts one hour after submission?

High comment rates on a recently posted story will weigh the story down. This is by design, and the quality of comments presently on this story does much to demonstrate the reasoning behind that choice. Most likely the story will be reposted or "second chance" resurrected in the morning, when all the grownups are awake and not just those of us having a touch of insomnia.

[flagged]

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#358
post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, your skepticism is warranted. Democracy tries to select for people doing the right thing, but of course people interested in power will try to game the system by pretending to do the right thing.

I think that’s right. It’s hard to know from a distance “they are definitely doing the right thing” so the appearance of doing the right thing is valued. Then, as a politician, appearing to do the right thing is sufficient and then pretending to do the right thing is often cheaper/higher output per unit of input, so pretending is rewarded.

That reminds me of Bruce Schneier's notion of security theater [1]. Implementing ineffective measures that give a feeling of being the right thing on superficial view, in security or elsewhere. Populism has understood that thoroughly.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#359
post #27
post #14

He should have done like Snowden. Got out of the country before exposing material. Shouldn't a witness in a high profile case like him been granted some sort of police escort by the court? Guy paid the ultimate price for freedom of speech and informing the public. Wonder if someone will sustain there is no threat to freedom of speech because the lawsuit involved the company where he was employed, not the government.…

Name a juridiction where he would have been both i)taken in and ii)secure.

As long as he stuck to whistleblowing American companies, Russia.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#360
post #23

Anyone know why this isn’t on the front page with 96 pts one hour after submission?

High comment rates on a recently posted story will weigh the story down. This is by design, and the quality of comments presently on this story does much to demonstrate the reasoning behind that choice. Most likely the story will be reposted or "second chance" resurrected in the morning, when all the grownups are awake and not just those of us having a touch of insomnia.

Timezones are a thing. It's noon now and it was already morning when you posted this.
Post reply on HN