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Ask HN: If you could spend $100k to get healthy and fit, how would you do it?

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Re: Ask HN: If you could spend $100k to get healthy and fit, how would you do it?

#61
> Whenever I try and do these things myself it works for a few weeks, and then I go back to old habits. I’m done trying the same thing over and over, and then failing.

Every time I fail like this, it's because I tried to do too much too fast and it wasn't sustainable. If it's not sustainable, it's inevitable that you'll quit.

For me it's been a mistake to focus on the goal (i.e. don't focus on "lose 30 pounds"). Instead, establish exercise as a daily habit, regardless of the goal. Set aside the time to do it every day at the same time of day, a sustainable amount of time (not too much!). Ramp up slowly, don't injure yourself, don't get impatient, just do a little every day. Mentally commit to doing it for the rest of your life. Don't think of it as a thing you're doing for some other purpose, just think of it as part of your life that you must do every day.

It took a few years of weekend hikes before I was willing to make a commitment to walk a whole 1 hour every day -- and the only reason I did that was because I was going to do a multi-day high-altitude hike (EBC trek) and I knew from experience that if I didn't train for it then I'd probably not complete it. It was a decade before I moved on to other forms of exercise -- it's a very long process!

Someone else mentioned you should cook all your food. I agree, cooking your own meals is an amazing habit with some key benefits (not just nutrition). It provides instant gratification and also once it's established as a habit then you can use it as an exemplar for how to establish other daily habits.

Edit: By "exemplar" I mean that you need proof to yourself that a small gradual habit will eventually lead to the benefits you want from it. It's not easy to see the worth of delayed gratification that doesn't come to fruition within a few months. It requires "faith". Having gone through the process once will give you the proof you need to have faith that you can do it again.

Re: Ask HN: If you could spend $100k to get healthy and fit, how would you do it?

#62

If possible: sell your car, buy a nice bike and ride to work! ( move close to your work if possible?) As a teacher, I make far less than 100k a year (far less!), but my health hack is that I bike to work every day, so at the very least, I get 5+ miles of exercise. I have the luxury of having bought a house just over 2.5 miles from campus, but it's part of the lifestyle I chose years ago.

Do you shower after arriving at work? Seems like a deal breaker for me where I live, given the weather.

Re: Ask HN: If you could spend $100k to get healthy and fit, how would you do it?

#63
post #41

I did exactly what you want to do. Here’s how I did it. Do Wendler 5/3/1 4 days/week. Run couch to 5K 2 days per week. Cook all your food. Eat 2500-2700 kcal per day. Eat whatever you want Sunday afternoon. Yes, this means food prep the night before and carry your food to work. Weigh yourself every morning. 2 years. I went from 233 lbs to a jacked 183 lbs with abs. I was a C*O and had a small child and I was single.…

As someone who doesn't know what all these terms mean e.g. "5/3/1 sets/repxs, 5x5 @first set last" (from the wendler website) can you explain them?

A few thoughts:

* There are a lot of Wendler intro articles around. But his main book is a good buy — it’s affordable, funny, and written as a complete intro. You don’t need any of his other books.

You might need some form help but there are a million videos online about squat and deadlift and bench press form. Of course, if you want the Bible on those you can also purchase Starting Strength. There’s an 80 page chapter on just the form for squatting. If that doesn’t sound like a fun and energizing read, Wendler may not the right path. Learning good form for at least the three major lifts (and overhead press) kept me very invested. I enjoyed getting a bit obsessed with it. I love deadlifting especially.

* I’ve been using this site for programming for over a decade: https://blackironbeast.com/5/3/1/calculator

* The 5/3/1 refers to the goal of the last working set for each of the main lifts, each week. Wendler is a 3 week micro-progression, with a reload week, and then it repeats. The calculator is the best way to start. It makes it mindless and every rep and set is included in the output.

* The Wendler website isn’t the best place for programming, only because it’s all in the book or in that website link. I never liked using spreadsheets for this.

* Also also, if you think this is interesting and want to buy the book but it won’t arrive for a few days.. or you want a starter option before jumping into Wendler, the StrongLifts 5x5 app was basically conceived as a starter version of Wendler, to help get you accustomed to some of these patterns. The author says it’s good through intermediate level progress, but I think that’s underselling it.

But I’d recommend going to black iron beast, putting some nice low numbers for the Real Rep Maxes, switching the program to “Triumvirate (smart man’s program)” and then printing out weeks 1-4. After you do that, increase the rep maxes by 5-10 lbs (upper body versus lower body; Wendler covers this in the book) and repeat.

What I found helpful about this is: it’s programmatic, it follows a set pattern, and you don’t have to think about what to do in the gym. You can go by the program for many months, or even a year, before trying to alter or enhance it (don’t.. for a long time). You just do it and adjust if you can’t. The lack of uncertainty worked wonders for me.

Happy to answer any follow up questions.

Re: Ask HN: If you could spend $100k to get healthy and fit, how would you do it?

#64
Op, why do you need to spend 50k to get healthy?

Maybe you could spend a maximum of 5k, and I would recommend that only for buying exercise equipment, and for other items like a nice road bike. Start exercising 30 minutes to 1 hour everyday

Start with a diet full of fresh fruits and vegetables and cut out sugary crap and oily, fried stuff. Cutting out or drastically minimizing meat might also help. You'll see huge changes in 30 days.

Re: Ask HN: If you could spend $100k to get healthy and fit, how would you do it?

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who doesn't know what all these terms mean e.g. "5/3/1 sets/repxs, 5x5 @first set last" (from the wendler website) can you explain them?

A few thoughts: * There are a lot of Wendler intro articles around. But his main book is a good buy — it’s affordable, funny, and written as a complete intro. You don’t need any of his other books. You might need some form help but there are a million videos online about squat and deadlift and bench press form. Of course, if you want the Bible on those you can also purchase Starting Strength. There’s an 80 page chapt…

Thanks! I'll check all this out. My goal is mainly to lose weight (about 30lbs) but I've been noticing little things like blood circulation isn't what it should be. I get tired quickly after a bit of exercise. Things like that. I'll check out the books. I always get confused over all the terms but haven't had the will yet to actually learn it.

Re: Ask HN: If you could spend $100k to get healthy and fit, how would you do it?

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few thoughts: * There are a lot of Wendler intro articles around. But his main book is a good buy — it’s affordable, funny, and written as a complete intro. You don’t need any of his other books. You might need some form help but there are a million videos online about squat and deadlift and bench press form. Of course, if you want the Bible on those you can also purchase Starting Strength. There’s an 80 page chapt…

Thanks! I'll check all this out. My goal is mainly to lose weight (about 30lbs) but I've been noticing little things like blood circulation isn't what it should be. I get tired quickly after a bit of exercise. Things like that. I'll check out the books. I always get confused over all the terms but haven't had the will yet to actually learn it.

Indeed, I found this style of exercising, plus running, to be especially beneficial for my vitality… physically and mentally. Hitting numbers each week also kept the motivation and discipline in check against negative tendencies.

Re: Ask HN: If you could spend $100k to get healthy and fit, how would you do it?

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It's really hard to understand someone's individual barriers to change without spending time with them in real life, so forgive me if this isn't useful, but the first thing I wonder is how much does your career affect your health? How much longer do you actually need to work, or work full-time, for your values of 'need'? Would $100K effectively 'buy' you more time off so you can spend more time on yourself without fe…

And one easy way to give yourself time out is to go on a long adventure. Walk some ridiculously long track. Cycle North and/or South America. Motorcycle around Europe then to Asia. Spend a year in India. Live in a fishing cabin, or more remotely. The possibilities are endless and $100,000 gets a lot of travelling if you give yourself 12 months. (A lot longer than that even).

(Doesn't work so well if you have dependants of course)

Re: Ask HN: If you could spend $100k to get healthy and fit, how would you do it?

#68
I recommend you do what I am doing without spending $100,000: Go to the doctor, ask for a prescription for a GLP1 and then take it consistently, and then go to the gym 5x a week, and not worry about it.

GLP1's are the future. The future is here. You don't need to struggle with weight anymore. The mircacle cure for insatiable hunger is here. You will never think about food again.

Hand on heart, the last few weeks i've been on a GLP1 has been the easiest time i've ever had "dieting". It doesn't even feel like a diet because I just don't give a shit about food.

Re: Ask HN: If you could spend $100k to get healthy and fit, how would you do it?

#69
TDCS is a form of neurostimulation that can be used to treat addiction, among other things. You can’t outrun a bad diet, and if you look at food as an addiction, then you can treat it that way. There’s even an ultrasound brain surgery they can do for addiction.

https://youtu.be/7BGtVJ3lBdE

Re: Ask HN: If you could spend $100k to get healthy and fit, how would you do it?

#70
Low-carb/no-carb/Keto is a very hard way to lose weight over the longer term. I have a note on my wall from a radio show ~2 or ~3 years ago about the fatal metabolic defect of the ketogenic diet.

I have a friend who tortured herself trying to stick to a keto/low-carb routine, even though she knew the slimmest she'd ever been was when she was eating rice cakes and egg whites (iirc - she wasn't that healthy, just was slender.)

Something happened in the early-mid 1970's. The results started to appear 1978 to 1980: the population's weight on the scales started ticking up. I've posted about this a few times recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39493758 All the interventions in the decades since 1980 haven't helped, because they don't address what changed circa ~1975-1977.

I recently found a newspaper article from 1981 that's basically a smoking flare gun. I'm certain it covers what set off the obesity epidemic in the mid- to late- 1970's: the removal of a protective factor in the food supply. The sources cited in that 1981 article were so proud of themselves. Not sharing until I figure out how to take credit. The clues are all out there, you just have to know what's important.

After addressing what happened in the mid-1970's, losing weight should be easier. There are still lots of details, and things that'll be specific to your own personal situation, but it shouldn't be so insurmountable.

I'd be happy to chat with you about 'weight'. I just added a firefox relay email to my profile. I'll check spam to make sure it goes through... I'll respond to anyone who writes with a picture of my note about the fatal defect of 'keto', and a basic strategy for humans to keep themselves from gorging at their meals.

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