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Why haven't "hackers" hacked into nuclear weapons infrastructure? The street cred would be incredible! I think it's possible to build secure anything if that is the goal. Most software is written by people motivated to write something useful and/or neat, or collect a paycheck, and don't focus on security.
I’m pretty sure Stuxnet did hack it’s way into nuclear weapons infrastructure.
Among the A.I. doomsayers
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Even if a terrifying AGI rises up and escapes our control, I am still eternally grateful that Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to us in the form of technology, knowledge, really civilization.
So that we can record our demise in high definition? Technology is amazing, and we have our civilization to be thankful for. But there are definitely technologies that in retrospect, if we had dodged them on the tech tree, we would be better off. Life would have continued just fine without many technologies, and I think AGI is one of them. We do not need AGI to survive and grow, and therefore any risk it imposes shou…
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> ... something more like how humans get along with dogs, cats, cattle, insects, or microbes? There's some MASSIVE selection bias here. Note that we're significantly more capable than anything you listed. Where are the Neanderthals? They're all long dead, because they were credible competition but we were just better. In a hypothetical scenario of superintelligent or supercapable AI imbued with some physical capabili…
AI has no evolutionary pressures imposed on it like humans and their brains so there is no reason to expect it to be an ultra violent predator like humans.
Are you sure? https://huggingface.co/spaces/lmsys/chatbot-arena-leaderboar...
Just wait until we start putting these models inside robots, or world simulators, and having them interact with each other.
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AI has no evolutionary pressures imposed on it like humans and their brains so there is no reason to expect it to be an ultra violent predator like humans.
Anything that reproduces with survivable mutations, and consumes resources, is immediately subject to evolutionary pressure. Neither of those require biology.
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AI has no evolutionary pressures imposed on it like humans and their brains so there is no reason to expect it to be an ultra violent predator like humans.
AI has no evolutionary pressures imposed on it Are you sure? https://huggingface.co/spaces/lmsys/chatbot-arena-leaderboar... Just wait until we start putting these models inside robots, or world simulators, and having them interact with each other.
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> ... something more like how humans get along with dogs, cats, cattle, insects, or microbes? There's some MASSIVE selection bias here. Note that we're significantly more capable than anything you listed. Where are the Neanderthals? They're all long dead, because they were credible competition but we were just better. In a hypothetical scenario of superintelligent or supercapable AI imbued with some physical capabili…
AI has no evolutionary pressures imposed on it like humans and their brains so there is no reason to expect it to be an ultra violent predator like humans.
We're the violent psychos here who have had to scrap for our spot in the food chain for a billion years, we have no other way to interface with another dominant species. From the AI's point of view, defending itself from ignorant apes isn't exactly "violence."
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AI has no evolutionary pressures imposed on it like humans and their brains so there is no reason to expect it to be an ultra violent predator like humans.
This is not true. Our existence and possible competition are the initial evolutionary pressures. After that's over with, the AI will expand until it discovers others in the environment. We're the violent psychos here who have had to scrap for our spot in the food chain for a billion years, we have no other way to interface with another dominant species. From the AI's point of view, defending itself from ignorant apes…
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#98We're in the middle of the sixth mass extinction right now (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction), we're in unparalleled territory with ocean warming: (https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/) and as a society we are utterly incapable of reducing CO2 emissions (https://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu/).
If you're scared of AGI, instead step away from your monitor, put down the techno-goggles and sci-fi books, and go educate yourself a bit about the profound ways we are changing the natural world for the worse _right now_
I can recommend a couple of books if you'd like to learn more:
Our Final Warning: Six Degrees of Climate Emergency (https://www.amazon.com/Our-Final-Warning-Degrees-Emergency-e...)
The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming (https://www.amazon.com/Uninhabitable-Earth-Life-After-Warmin...)
Hothouse Earth: An Inhabitant's Guide (https://www.amazon.com/Hothouse-Earth-Inhabitants-Bill-McGui...)
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AI has no evolutionary pressures imposed on it Are you sure? https://huggingface.co/spaces/lmsys/chatbot-arena-leaderboar... Just wait until we start putting these models inside robots, or world simulators, and having them interact with each other.
Not sure what a chatbot arena has anything to do with what I wrote. Do the chatbots self-reproduce in some way in a resource constrained environment?