We should stop "speed-shaming" browsers and focus on websites, which negate all performance improvements made by browser developers by adding more useless features.
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Speedometer 3.0: A shared browser benchmark for web application responsiveness
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Re: Speedometer 3.0: A shared browser benchmark for web application responsiveness
#62By far the biggest speed complaint I have about Firefox is not in everyday use, but whenever I restore a previously saved session - it basically stops reacting for a few minutes(!) before eventually I can use it again. I suppose it's due to the anti-virus interfering with some kind of memory image or whatever but whatever it is, it's so annoying.
Re: Speedometer 3.0: A shared browser benchmark for web application responsiveness
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Speedometer measures web app responsiveness. Roughly, it simulates a series of user operations on web apps built with various frameworks (as well as vanilla JS), and measures the time it takes to complete them and paint the results to the screen. The score is a rescaled version of inverse time - if it goes up, that implies the browser can handle more user operations per second, or alternately, it takes fewer millisec…
> Speedometer measures web app responsiveness. We know that, but you haven't said anything specific about scores other than higher scores are faster, in an abstract sense, which has already been established.
"The score is a rescaled version of inverse time" is the key here.
If you run all the tests in half the time, your Speedometer score will double. If your score improves by 1%, it implies that you are 1% faster on the subtests.
(There are probably some subtleties here because we're using the geometric mean to avoid putting too much weight on any individual subtest, but the rough intuition should still hold.)
Re: Speedometer 3.0: A shared browser benchmark for web application responsiveness
#64By far the biggest speed complaint I have about Firefox is not in everyday use, but whenever I restore a previously saved session - it basically stops reacting for a few minutes(!) before eventually I can use it again. I suppose it's due to the anti-virus interfering with some kind of memory image or whatever but whatever it is, it's so annoying.
> but whenever I restore a previously saved session - it basically stops reacting for a few minutes(!)
I haven't run into anything like this; you may be an outlier. I interact with ~7 Firefox instances (Win) each week. Each has diff configs and plugins.
Re: Speedometer 3.0: A shared browser benchmark for web application responsiveness
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article even links to real-world performance measurements that are completely separate from the benchmark. I have no idea what the purpose of the OP's comment was. I guess they just wanted to blurt out the first cynical thing that came to mind. Awesome contribution.
I love the fact that an honest question is met with such hostility. I knew there was a quote, but was unable to think of it well enough for a proper search. It is easier to find an answer from other people with just a shard of detail that search engine will not find as there's no SEO for the broken fragment. I'm so happy to see this place is alive and well with the attitude to support a curious mind. What a tosser
I've probably spent too much time on the internet, then, because I definitely wouldn't have interpreted your original post as an honest question without having seen the clarification in your followup comment. Probably a defense mechanism built from past pain caused by my assuming good faith and then being ridiculed from the non-honest-question-asker.
But with that nastiness out of the way - I looked back at your original question and thought "seems like the kind of query Kagi would eat for breakfast". Here's what it responded to your question: https://kagi.com/search?q=What%27s+the+quote+about+optimizin...
Specifically, the "what" at the start and the "?" at the end triggered the LLM-powered quick answer at the top (and it passes the smell test for correctness).
To Google's credit, it also returns reasonable results for this question.
Re: Speedometer 3.0: A shared browser benchmark for web application responsiveness
#66By far the biggest speed complaint I have about Firefox is not in everyday use, but whenever I restore a previously saved session - it basically stops reacting for a few minutes(!) before eventually I can use it again. I suppose it's due to the anti-virus interfering with some kind of memory image or whatever but whatever it is, it's so annoying.
> but whenever I restore a previously saved session - it basically stops reacting for a few minutes(!) I haven't run into anything like this; you may be an outlier. I interact with ~7 Firefox instances (Win) each week. Each has diff configs and plugins.
Yeah, I've used on linux/win/mac restoring sometimes 20+tabs and never had that issue.
Re: Speedometer 3.0: A shared browser benchmark for web application responsiveness
#67In iOS, all browsers (at the moment) use Safari under the hood. Imagine my surprise to see these noticeable differences in some of them.
Vivaldi:12.2
Brave:18.1
Safari:18.2
Chrome:19
Firefox Focus:21
Re: Speedometer 3.0: A shared browser benchmark for web application responsiveness
#68In iOS, all browsers (at the moment) use Safari under the hood. Imagine my surprise to see these noticeable differences in some of them. Vivaldi:12.2 Brave:18.1 Safari:18.2 Chrome:19 Firefox Focus:21
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Re: Speedometer 3.0: A shared browser benchmark for web application responsiveness
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article even links to real-world performance measurements that are completely separate from the benchmark. I have no idea what the purpose of the OP's comment was. I guess they just wanted to blurt out the first cynical thing that came to mind. Awesome contribution.
I love the fact that an honest question is met with such hostility. I knew there was a quote, but was unable to think of it well enough for a proper search. It is easier to find an answer from other people with just a shard of detail that search engine will not find as there's no SEO for the broken fragment. I'm so happy to see this place is alive and well with the attitude to support a curious mind. What a tosser
So, why are you bringing up the quote in this context, then?
Re: Speedometer 3.0: A shared browser benchmark for web application responsiveness
#70On Firefox mobile I got a score of 3. So while Firefox is now super fast the performance of webapps might still be very bad on mobile. And I think this applies to all modern browsers: they are fast at rendering very slow webapps and websites.
10.9 on Win10 2017 Xeon @ 4.3GHz w/ 64GB. This instance of Ffx has had ~50 tabs (across 5 containers) open for a couple of weeks.
What do these values represent? I can guess the last. Unsure of the first 2.
96.84 ±(5.0%) 4.87 ms