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Humanity Is Dangerously Pushing Its Ability to Tolerate Heat

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Re: Humanity Is Dangerously Pushing Its Ability to Tolerate Heat

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Post by moffkalast »

_heimdall wrote: post #75
seiferteric wrote: post #13

This is why I think we should be seriously considering atmospheric aerosol injection already. Not sure why there aren't more large government funded studies of this.

Before we start filling our atmosphere with theoretical solutions, shouldn't we reduce as much of emissions and consumption and possible? We humans consume an insane amount of natural resources. We have built many of our societies around global interdependence. We produce a constant flood of stuff that is consumed quickly and discarded. We could make a big impact simply shifting to more local economies. For example,…

Frankly it's not one or the other, it's both at the same time as much as possible because we're extremely late to this party.

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Post by Hikikomori »

renegade-otter wrote: post #85
brabel wrote: post #77

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> Ice coffee in Europe is not a thing! What?! How long haven't you been here?? I can't remember not having wide varieties of iced coffee, frapuccinos etc. in basically any cafe I've been to in at least 10 years... Europe is not a single place though, so perhaps you mean a certain part of Europe (I am familiar with France, Italy, Spain, Sweden, Austria, Poland, Belarus and a few more surrounding these countries)!?

I ordered an ice coffee in Lviv and I was told - "this is not a thing". Lviv has hardcore coffee culture, too. After that I did not dare order it in other countries. So, are we talking a nice pint of ICED coffee, with ice cubes jiggling in it?

So an anecdote from one coffee shop in one city that doesn't get that hot and you apply that to all of Europe

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Post by bloomingeek »

adrianN wrote: post #79
wwilim wrote: post #40

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If only everybody everywhere voted for left-wing parties instead of right-wing populists...

If only everyone voted for parties who don't deny science...

And there's the rub, we humans can be so stubborn about issues we don't understand. Ignorance can be cured, but wisdom must be earned.

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Post by calabin »

anonreeeeplor wrote: post #116

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How do you reconcile recent extreme weather and weather events with your apparent view that most climate reporting is fake? Or that recent years have all been the hottest in modern human history?

Your comment isn't very useful, and not in the spirit of HN with regard to helpful/thoughtful discussion. It's just complaining without evidence.

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Post by thworp »

hackerlight wrote: post #39
jijijijij wrote: post #35

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The thing to think about, is how poorly developed, rural places, without ACs or stable grids , are much more likely to experience heat waves with universally fatal wet-bulb temperatures. Places like parts of India or Bangladesh with high population densities, too. Further more, I think, we also need to consider how non-survivable conditions to humans, may play out for other animals we depend on. The cows, chicken, sh…

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Re: Humanity Is Dangerously Pushing Its Ability to Tolerate Heat

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Post by richrichie »

huppeldepup wrote: post #65
jijijijij wrote: post #35

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The thing to think about, is how poorly developed, rural places, without ACs or stable grids , are much more likely to experience heat waves with universally fatal wet-bulb temperatures. Places like parts of India or Bangladesh with high population densities, too. Further more, I think, we also need to consider how non-survivable conditions to humans, may play out for other animals we depend on. The cows, chicken, sh…

The 2003 heatwave killed 70.000+ in Europe. But nobody seems to remember/know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heatwave

Extreme cold kills far more.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2023/07/19/excessiv...

Re: Humanity Is Dangerously Pushing Its Ability to Tolerate Heat

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Post by _heimdall »

MandieD wrote: post #92
_heimdall wrote: post #75

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Before we start filling our atmosphere with theoretical solutions, shouldn't we reduce as much of emissions and consumption and possible? We humans consume an insane amount of natural resources. We have built many of our societies around global interdependence. We produce a constant flood of stuff that is consumed quickly and discarded. We could make a big impact simply shifting to more local economies. For example,…

It was apparently intentionally-tainted cinnamon in apple sauce pouches, but confirms your point about the complexity of food supply chains making it more likely for bad stuff to get in: https://www.fda.gov/food/outbreaks-foodborne-illness/investi...

Oh that's an important update I hadn't seen, thanks!

Re: Humanity Is Dangerously Pushing Its Ability to Tolerate Heat

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

olalonde wrote: post #118
jijijijij wrote: post #54

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> an opportunity for many of the people living near the equator to become more prosperous Please tell us, what you have in mind. More economic growth?

Yes, of course. There's a reason why people in developing countries are the least concerned about pollution or global warming. It's because economic growth has a much greater positive impact on their lives than an imperceptibly slow warming of the planet.

> reason why people in developing countries are the least concerned about pollution or global warming

Hyperbolic discounting?

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