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Re: Reddit: Return of the Junk Stock IPO

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How has reddit community changed since it's API permission changes that removed all third party apps? A lot of people forecasted doom for the network and many subreddits went private to protest. Have the predictions come true? Presumably all those changes were to juice numbers pre IPO. In hindsight, did it work?

It did work in terms of what the Reddit owners wanted, which was engagement - they did get more people onto their app and using their platform. The owners got just what they wanted.

In return, quality has fallen off a cliff. Moderation on some of the most popular subs is scarce, so all the popular ones have started to coalesce into a 'blob' of sameness. Discussions are poor as well, and misinformation is rife.

For the niche subreddits, often dedicated to one topic, where there isn't a lot of traffic, not that much has changed. There's still a decent amount of engagement. It might be that some quality has fallen off there, but it's the "new normal".

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How has reddit community changed since it's API permission changes that removed all third party apps? A lot of people forecasted doom for the network and many subreddits went private to protest. Have the predictions come true? Presumably all those changes were to juice numbers pre IPO. In hindsight, did it work?

It’s very subjective but Quality of moderation has dropped in my opinion. Things like giving moderators the ability to moderate anonymously (you can now conceal names of moderators entirely but on sidebar and in coms) has also result in power tripping moderators having a field day. On the whole though the Reddit won - all the serious protestors left and the remainder (majority) folded

It was always clear that the nazi mods would never ever give up their power, which made this whole "protest" ridiculous from the start. The only ones who left were the few good people in small subreddits, who just wanted a forum to talk about their niche hobby, leaving behind an even larger percentage of powertripping narcissists.

Re: Reddit: Return of the Junk Stock IPO

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How has reddit community changed since it's API permission changes that removed all third party apps? A lot of people forecasted doom for the network and many subreddits went private to protest. Have the predictions come true? Presumably all those changes were to juice numbers pre IPO. In hindsight, did it work?

Can't be bothered to log into every device to read a reddit page. It requires an account for some pages as simple as r/rust

Re: Reddit: Return of the Junk Stock IPO

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This underestimates just how slimy Reddit is. When looking at all the stats and financials provided remember this is a company that started by creating fake users & happily acknowledges as much. Or the direct edits by founders to underlying database to influence discussions. Or the weird super moderators that have power over thousands of subs that seem to have their own agenda far too often ( https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fb... )

Re: Reddit: Return of the Junk Stock IPO

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How has reddit community changed since it's API permission changes that removed all third party apps? A lot of people forecasted doom for the network and many subreddits went private to protest. Have the predictions come true? Presumably all those changes were to juice numbers pre IPO. In hindsight, did it work?

It's 100% the same. The official app isn't even that bad if you remove the ads. The biggest problem (powermods) still remains ironically after all of this. Bummer really, I thought they would use the opportunity to clean up

The main concern with the official app is the data it hoards. Back in the day it even needed permissions for your Google account on Android, and did not work without it.

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How has reddit community changed since it's API permission changes that removed all third party apps? A lot of people forecasted doom for the network and many subreddits went private to protest. Have the predictions come true? Presumably all those changes were to juice numbers pre IPO. In hindsight, did it work?

Can't be bothered to log into every device to read a reddit page. It requires an account for some pages as simple as r/rust

old.reddit.com is the only reddit worth using.

Re: Reddit: Return of the Junk Stock IPO

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How has reddit community changed since it's API permission changes that removed all third party apps? A lot of people forecasted doom for the network and many subreddits went private to protest. Have the predictions come true? Presumably all those changes were to juice numbers pre IPO. In hindsight, did it work?

Can't be bothered to log into every device to read a reddit page. It requires an account for some pages as simple as r/rust

For stuff like that use https://old.reddit.com/r/rust

In my experience that solves the issue. It’s not the most mobile friendly but workable and my go-to regardless.

Re: Reddit: Return of the Junk Stock IPO

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How has reddit community changed since it's API permission changes that removed all third party apps? A lot of people forecasted doom for the network and many subreddits went private to protest. Have the predictions come true? Presumably all those changes were to juice numbers pre IPO. In hindsight, did it work?

Can't be bothered to log into every device to read a reddit page. It requires an account for some pages as simple as r/rust

You can use old.reddit.com instead of www.reddit.com, and that will bypass the login requirement.

Re: Reddit: Return of the Junk Stock IPO

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How has reddit community changed since it's API permission changes that removed all third party apps? A lot of people forecasted doom for the network and many subreddits went private to protest. Have the predictions come true? Presumably all those changes were to juice numbers pre IPO. In hindsight, did it work?

Reddit drove away lots of users via that change, although I expect Reddit's MAU still grew overall due to the continued worldwide penetration of the internet. In addition, while in the short-term it almost certainly lost users, it drove the remaining users towards frontends that were more profitable to Reddit (i.e. away from the website and towards the app), so I expect the company still sees that as a win, at least as far as the IPO is concerned.

However, the deleterious effect on Reddit's overall culture cannot be understated. The people who were most driven away by the API changes were power users, and Reddit has become far more bland and repetitive as a result (to anyone familiar with the tenor of Reddit it may seem hard to believe that it could lower the bar any further, but I assure you, it has). The difference in trending subreddits from immediately before the blackout to immediately after was dramatic; whereas before you could expect the site-wide trending posts to have the nutritional content of cardboard (with the occasional gem from e.g. AskHistorians), it has been replaced with a flood of celebrity drama, ragebait from "unpopular opinion" clones, and ragebait creative writing exercises via dozens of similar "am I the asshole" clones. This is normalizing somewhat as the clones compete with each other and coalesce (Reddit's algorithm tries to limit trending posts to one per subreddit), but it's still a regression.

That said, it's still not the worst that Reddit has ever been; that title still belongs to back to 2016 when TheDonald popularized how to game the trending algorithm via brigading their own stickied posts. But I'm using Reddit less and less as they keep making the experience even worse, especially on mobile, which is more hostile to the Oldreddit interface than ever. After the IPO I expect them to jettison Oldreddit entirely, at which point the site will be beyond useless for anyone who actually wants to use it as a place to read comments rather than as a poor TikTok imitation.

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