This is why I think we should be seriously considering atmospheric aerosol injection already. Not sure why there aren't more large government funded studies of this.
I have zero confidence in that working without side effects worse than the disease.
Humanity Is Dangerously Pushing Its Ability to Tolerate Heat
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#52The scientific litterature and IPCC’s summaries warned about these phenomenon. When 2 billion people will be living under wet bulb temperature that can’t be tanked by the body it’s going to be a mess worldwide.
People who live in the humid tropics are already on a knife's edge. A small increase makes the heat intolerable and you will see either mass death or mass waves of immigration. "Just build aircon" doesn't work when you're talking about people with intermittent (or no) electricity and who have an annual income equal to a single aircon unit.
Exactly.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Or the hysteria was overblown, and we instead sabotaged an opportunity for many of the people living near the equator to become more prosperous.
Easy gamble to make when you don't live in a country with regular 33'c temperatures at 60% humidity. And if your gamble turns out wrong will you compensate the victims? Will you advocate for borders to be opened up as they have to flee their countries?
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Or the hysteria was overblown, and we instead sabotaged an opportunity for many of the people living near the equator to become more prosperous.
> an opportunity for many of the people living near the equator to become more prosperous
Please tell us, what you have in mind. More economic growth?
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#55A friend of mine who lives in Queensland (Sunshine Coast) was talking about a recent spell of 32° and 100% humidity and how oppressive it was. My understanding is that such weather is not survivable long term [1] without air conditioning. A power failure would be disastrous. [1] https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/humans-cant-endure-t...
Try living in Goa in the monsoon season. Or even rewatch Apocalypse Now or basically any Vietnam war movie. I assure you, even 36C/100% is survivable.
People need sometime to build tolerance to a given temperature. Someone who lives in Manaus or Belem do Para, Brazilian Amazonia would have a hard time getting used even to daily averages around 40F, and vice-versa.
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#56People from Middle East and Northern Africa who have been living in harsh conditions for the last several THOUSAND years send regards to all climate change researchers.
...and the rest of Africa, Indonesia and northern South America too. Talk about eurocentric...
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#57This is why I think we should be seriously considering atmospheric aerosol injection already. Not sure why there aren't more large government funded studies of this.
I believe this was the plot of the movie Snowpiercer . I would be a bit worried about accidental side effects; atmospheric alteration on a large scale seems like a dangerous game.
And book Termination Shock.
One Billionaire took it upon himself to seed sulfur in upper atmosphere.
And Not for global warming, but in The Matrix, humans darkened the skies to fight the machines.
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#58fta: "Our best hope in the face of inevitable rises in heat? Cooperation. “We’ve built forecasting systems that will warn us when disasters are incoming by working together at enormous scale. We must continue to do the same.” This sentence basically says "we don't need to make less disasters, just better handle them".
It's pretty clear attempting to get numerous bad actors to fix their polluting behaviour isn't going to make things happen any faster (and is in any case a monumentally different task). So we must deal with the problem after it occurs, instead.
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#59People from Middle East and Northern Africa who have been living in harsh conditions for the last several THOUSAND years send regards to all climate change researchers.
Can we make the conditions for them even harsher? Does that not seem like a problem?
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#60This is why I think we should be seriously considering atmospheric aerosol injection already. Not sure why there aren't more large government funded studies of this.
I have zero confidence in that working without side effects worse than the disease.
This is why we should study it...