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Re: Dress code: blue tie and male

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Post by josephcooney »

kingkilr wrote: post #97
josephcooney wrote: post #85

Picture this if you will: Half way through Mads Christensen's 'spot/tirade' Michael Dell walks onto the stage carrying a microphone. Mad's microphone goes dead. "Well Mads, I know we (Dell) asked you to come along and speak today" says Michael "but your views about women are very, very wrong. They don't represent my views, the views of my company, and they have no place at this conference. We're going to have a 15-mi…

Was the show you were wathching "Australia's Naughties Home Videos"? I know that was cancelled half way through it's first episode by the network owner.

Yes, I think so.

Re: Dress code: blue tie and male

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Post by chives »

fusiongyro wrote: post #108
etherael wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This guy was not funny" is a different criticism to "This guy engaged in straightfaced serious misogynistic commentary" is a different criticism to "This guy should not have been hired for this particular venue". The only thing I have a problem with is the statement "This guy engaged in straightfaced serious misogynistic commentary". And that is a large portion of the criticism here, it's missing the point.

> "This guy engaged in straightfaced serious misogynistic commentary" is a different criticism to "This guy should not have been hired for this particular venue". Actually, in this case, in America, the former implies the latter. This kind of rhetoric simply isn't appropriate in this kind of venue, whether it's meant comedically or not.

After reading the chain of comments above, I can't help but find your comment inappropriate.

A) Someone gave a back story, that this guys is a actually a comedian. Do I get upset when a comedian makes fun of fat people? No, whether people laugh or not, it is quite obvious that it was a joke. Granted, it sounds like this guy was not funny despite females getting tossed under the proverbial bus, leading to point

B) When its your company you can choose which ever speaker you like. Until then, your just going to have to settle with your opinion, which is frankly is neither relevant nor funny.

And not a fuck was given.

Re: Dress code: blue tie and male

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Post by [deleted] »

olavk wrote: post #48
AJ007 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this would be the equivalent of someone complaining about a popular US comedian well known for making racist jokes?

He is not a comedian, more like a fashion, lifestyle and relationship expert. When he says that men should learn to say "shut up, bitch" it is not intended as a joke but as legitimate relationship advice. His viewpoints are well known, and Dell got exactly what they could expect. What is surprising is that Dell thinks this kind of relationship-advice is appropriate entertainment for a business conference.

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Re: Dress code: blue tie and male

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Post by aperrien »

josephcooney wrote: post #85

Picture this if you will: Half way through Mads Christensen's 'spot/tirade' Michael Dell walks onto the stage carrying a microphone. Mad's microphone goes dead. "Well Mads, I know we (Dell) asked you to come along and speak today" says Michael "but your views about women are very, very wrong. They don't represent my views, the views of my company, and they have no place at this conference. We're going to have a 15-mi…

I agree. I cannot see why he did not do this, as not doing it implies that he's really just a shadow of his former self...

Sad, really.

Re: Dress code: blue tie and male

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Post by [deleted] »

AJ007 wrote: post #31
orcadk wrote: post #17

Just to give a short recap of who this Mads Christensen guy is, coming from a Dane: His tag line is "Denmarks big show-off" and he basically markets himself as a provocative bragging show-off, always with the rolexes, sports cars, slick hair and better-than-thy appearance. He's not perceived as a comedian but rather as an entertainer hired for various corporate events - some obviously less successful than others. Unl…

So this would be the equivalent of someone complaining about a popular US comedian well known for making racist jokes?

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Re: Dress code: blue tie and male

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Post by maclaren »

Unreal.

It's especially brutal that people involved in tech believe they're changing ("improving") the world yet decide gender determines skill.

What really matters: the people without prejudice - who will hire/work with talented engineers regardless of gender or race - will have an advantage via a larger talent pool.

Re: Dress code: blue tie and male

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Post by peterwwillis »

Well, Dell is getting plenty of PR out of this, so congrats to the people who hired the Danish version of Andrew 'Dice' Clay.

Little miss muffet, sat on her tuffet, eating her curds and whey. Along came a spider, who sat down beside her, and said, "What are all these bitches doing in Information Technology!" Eyyyyy!

Re: Dress code: blue tie and male

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Post by peterwwillis »

Well, Dell is getting plenty of PR out of this, so congrats to the people who hired the Danish version of Andrew 'Dice' Clay.

Little miss muffet, sat on her tuffet, eating her curds and whey. Along came a spider, who sat down beside her, and said, "What are all these bitches doing in Information Technology! Eyyyyy!"

Re: Dress code: blue tie and male

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Post by [deleted] »

kiba wrote: post #99
cbsmith wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually think there are lots of cases where it is perfectly warranted. It's a big world; if you are on the world stage, it is quite difficult not to offend somebody no matter what you do. There are experts in the fields of diplomacy and etiquette who devote their careers to getting this stuff right, and usually even then there is someone offended about efforts to be so "proper". ;-) So, I think it is a perfectly v…

It's a big world; if you are on the world stage, it is quite difficult not to offend somebody no matter what you do. There are experts in the fields of diplomacy and etiquette who devote their careers to getting this stuff right, and usually even then there is someone offended about efforts to be so "proper". ;-) Can you give evidence for what you believe in?

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Re: Dress code: blue tie and male

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Post by olavk »

mahyarm wrote: post #90
orcadk wrote: post #17

Just to give a short recap of who this Mads Christensen guy is, coming from a Dane: His tag line is "Denmarks big show-off" and he basically markets himself as a provocative bragging show-off, always with the rolexes, sports cars, slick hair and better-than-thy appearance. He's not perceived as a comedian but rather as an entertainer hired for various corporate events - some obviously less successful than others. Unl…

So he's a Danish Sacha Baren Cohen? (Borat, etc)

No, Borat etc. are clearly acts separate from Cohen. Christensen is not an actor, he believes what he says, although he uses exaggeration to get his point across.
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