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Re: Monodraw

#161

Post by samatman »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #77
diggan wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ASCII means more than just characters from the ASCII character standard today, for better or worse. The "modern" translation would be something like "text". I don't agree or disagree with it, so don't argue with me, just trying to explain how people use it today.

Anyone can write that a word no longer has its defined meaning. That can’t even be refuted, as it’s certain someone is confused somewhere. However, ASCII is not a random ancient word, it’s a ratified standard. Would be like calling any datetime format “ISO8601”.

Context is important, ya know? If we're talking about text encodings, that's one thing, but we're talking about drawing. "ASCII text" drawing was never entirely limited to ASCII even in the days of single-byte encodings. There were code pages which used the high bit for more useful drawing glyphs, people took advantage of that when they could.

The concept of an extended ASCII encoding goes way back: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_ASCII, and UTF-8 is just another extended ASCII encoding, albeit a very clever one, with a lot of codepoints.

Re: Monodraw

#162

Post by aramndrt »

This reminds me of the old text file format walkthroughs for video games. I fondly remember using the The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker walkthrough hosted on IGN. Good times. :')

Re: Monodraw

#163

Post by joehogans »

I love monodraw, I buyed it and use it for other developers to show complex functions. You can also ask GPT to render Unicode diagrams and past it in monodraw if you like.

Re: Monodraw

#164

Post by hit8run »

I remember that I bought it through the App Store just to find out that they offered a CLI that is only non App Store. Wrote them a mail and asked if they could change me to non App Store. Never got a reply lol

Re: Monodraw

#165

Post by simonjgreen »

Thorrez wrote: post #136
eichin wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, the "With Expression" diagram on line 656 looks fine in emacs, but in chrome at that actual link, everything on the right is mangled. (The characters look fine, it looks like github's font choices do poorly with the "load bearing whitespace" for the extended bits...)

I think it's the ◀ character. It looks like Chrome (I'm on Windows) makes it wider than other Characters. I think ▶ has this same problem. But from a quick scan, I don't see any other place in the file where one of those characters is used in a way that it being extra wide would be noticable.

Just observing, I think this is the first time I’ve seen Unicode symbols outside of basic Latin rendering on HN.

Re: Monodraw

#166

Post by diggan »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #77
diggan wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ASCII means more than just characters from the ASCII character standard today, for better or worse. The "modern" translation would be something like "text". I don't agree or disagree with it, so don't argue with me, just trying to explain how people use it today.

Anyone can write that a word no longer has its defined meaning. That can’t even be refuted, as it’s certain someone is confused somewhere. However, ASCII is not a random ancient word, it’s a ratified standard. Would be like calling any datetime format “ISO8601”.

> However, ASCII is not a random ancient word, it’s a ratified standard

Even so, ask around and you'll find debates about which ASCII standard is the "right" and "true" one. Some argue only the initial standard is correct for ASCII art, you need to follow that, others say any of the versions are alright.

It's still ambiguous.

Re: Monodraw

#167

Post by account-5 »

8ig8 wrote: post #147
smusamashah wrote: post #143

I maintain a list [1] of main web based text to diagram tools including ascii drawing tools like these. Web alternatives for this are probably https://fsymbols.com/draw/ or https://textik.com/ or https://asciiflow.com/#/ or https://web.archive.org/web/20210503172024/https://fatiherik... or https://app.monosketch.io [1]: https://xosh.org/text-to-diagram/

Pikchar is another to consider for your list. From the creator of SQLite… https://pikchr.org/home/doc/trunk/doc/userman.md

I was introduced to this recently, still digesting it, looks amazing. And no Mac only, and free to boot. Win, win.

Re: Monodraw

#168

Post by Semmel »

trusz wrote: post #99

I always end back with monodraw. Other apps have too many features and style possibilities that you forget about the content. With monodraw I never get distracted. However, it still has enough functionality that you can achieve a lot of things. One of my favorites are the anchors. I have even created a small demo/tutorial: https://tamasruss.com/articles/monodraw-anchors

That UML box of a class is really valueable. Great tutorial!

Re: Monodraw

#169

Post by stonlyb »

Is generative ASCII art a thing? Anything tools similar to Monodraw out there or possible to assist in taking a description and generating an image? Would think even LLM could be trained to think of this as some sort of language.
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