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Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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I'm biased, but Sourcegraph Cody has changed the way I write code. https://sourcegraph.com/cody And we just shipped support for Claude 3 (Opus and Sonnet) as well as using any local LLM via Ollama for completions and chat.

Does the Claude 3 support only apply to the VSCode plugin right now? I'm using the Jetbrains plugin and I don't see an option to use Claude 3.

Currently it is only VS Code, but adding support for JetBrains in the next week or so. :)

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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Does the Claude 3 support only apply to the VSCode plugin right now? I'm using the Jetbrains plugin and I don't see an option to use Claude 3.

Currently it is only VS Code, but adding support for JetBrains in the next week or so. :)

Sounds great! I just subscribed to Cody, looking forward to testing the JetBrains support.

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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+1, Claude 3 Opus is a game changer. Since OP asked about a Copilot product, we (YC W23) actually built https://double.bot to do exactly this: high quality UX + most capable models. Although we don't have a subscription right now, it's free for the time being :)

Don’t have a subscription? What about this? [0] Not that I mind a subscription, I’d pay it in a heartbeat if there were a JetBrains plugin. [0] https://docs.double.bot/pricing

We implemented the subscription a few hours ago, and still hold a very generous free tier. Unfortunately, we learnt that it's not possible to have an uncapped free tier, we saw several abusers use our API to run their own apps which is obviously against the spirit of a coding copilot :)

JetBrains plugin is on the roadmap, soon!

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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Don’t have a subscription? What about this? [0] Not that I mind a subscription, I’d pay it in a heartbeat if there were a JetBrains plugin. [0] https://docs.double.bot/pricing

We implemented the subscription a few hours ago, and still hold a very generous free tier. Unfortunately, we learnt that it's not possible to have an uncapped free tier, we saw several abusers use our API to run their own apps which is obviously against the spirit of a coding copilot :) JetBrains plugin is on the roadmap, soon!

Awesome, I'll be sure to try it out when the JetBrains plugin is available.

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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TIL that there's also Copilot plugins for Jetbrain IDEs

You also get them for Vim, Emacs, just about.

No you cannot. Copilot plugins are currently only supported for NeoVim, VS Code, and JetBrains IDEs. Emacs is not on the list.

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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I have been a big user of ChatGPT-4 ever since it came out. I have used in various forms. Through the chatbot, through GitHub Copilot etc. For the past year, I have looked high and low to see an alternative that performed better. Nothing came close. Until a few days ago with Anthropic released Claude 3. For software development work, it is very very impressive. I've been running GPT-4 and Claude 3 Opus side by side f…

+1, Claude 3 Opus is a game changer. Since OP asked about a Copilot product, we (YC W23) actually built https://double.bot to do exactly this: high quality UX + most capable models. Although we don't have a subscription right now, it's free for the time being :)

Any plans for Emacs support?

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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You also get them for Vim, Emacs, just about.

No you cannot. Copilot plugins are currently only supported for NeoVim, VS Code, and JetBrains IDEs. Emacs is not on the list.

I must be imagining copilot.el, then.

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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I see a whole lot of potential in these tools, and in some domains they are starting to deliver on some of the promise. But by and large I agree with this statement - they're actually costing me time because I have to do the research to see where they went wrong. I'm better off learning it properly and idiomatically from scratch right now.

I don't get this at all. What kind of code are you writing that you have to literally go and research what it spat out? In my experience 90% of code is 90% the same as another piece of code in the same repo, with small differences, and copilot will make you fly writing that code. If you can't read the output code, does it mean the rest of your codebase is similarly unreadable? The complexity in a codebase or a system…

"What kind of code are you writing that you have to literally go and research what it spat out" - so in a recent case I was trying to work with Elasticsearch. I'm not an expert in that, so I asked it to do some things. It hallucinated a bunch, and I ended up having to dive in and learn it deeply anyway.

In that case I think I was better off not relying on the tool. I do find it nice to steer me in a direction, but the things I use tend to be niche enough that I don't get the benefit many others do.

I also have a feeling you and I are using it in different capacities.

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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I have been a big user of ChatGPT-4 ever since it came out. I have used in various forms. Through the chatbot, through GitHub Copilot etc. For the past year, I have looked high and low to see an alternative that performed better. Nothing came close. Until a few days ago with Anthropic released Claude 3. For software development work, it is very very impressive. I've been running GPT-4 and Claude 3 Opus side by side f…

+1, Claude 3 Opus is a game changer. Since OP asked about a Copilot product, we (YC W23) actually built https://double.bot to do exactly this: high quality UX + most capable models. Although we don't have a subscription right now, it's free for the time being :)

At a glance, Double seems to be similar to Sourcegraph Cody - but Cody is half the price. What does Double offer that Cody doesnt?
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