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Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search

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https://duckduckgo.com/?q=brownie+recipe&ia=web Returned Love and Lemons first too. Never heard of them, but their SEO must be amazing.

Kagi gave me the same

So kagi displays spam in the same way as other search engines do

Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search

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I see lots of promises, but very little proof. While, again, running a business model that massively increases the inherent risk compared to the competition.

One of the best things about paid business model for search is that it aligns incentives and decreases the risk of data mining as the business makes money through subscriptions, without any need for ads/selling data.

Like all the companies that realized that quietly selling highly targetable user data is more profitable than their actual services? See all the "DNA analysis" companies selling data left and right

Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search

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Have you checked out Kagi? It’s exactly what you’re looking for and more. They have a blog post on the front page rn about their integration with Wolfram Alpha.

The more I read about kagi on hn the more it feels like organized shill campaign

We just had our daily stand up and I was asked to downvote you.

Hi!

Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search

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As long as Google doesn't have keyword search it's useless to me. Bring back quotes around a series of words, with an exact match. Bring back +WORD and -WORD to include exact matches and exclude exact matches that I am _not_ interested in seeing.

I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK about "popular" or "trending" matches. I want to see results that EXACTLY match what I am looking for.

Why is this such an impossible ask for search engines? 15 years ago it was the norm, not the exception. If SEO is the problem, then BLOCK THE SEO TRASH AT THE SOURCE.

Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search

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You are an angel!

You don't need to use a separate extension to filter out search results. You can use this tool to generate filters for uBlock Origin: https://letsblock.it/filters/search-results

Is there a cli tool for that? I have over 300 domains in my ublacklist list.

Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search

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As long as Google doesn't have keyword search it's useless to me. Bring back quotes around a series of words, with an exact match. Bring back +WORD and -WORD to include exact matches and exclude exact matches that I am _not_ interested in seeing. I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK about "popular" or "trending" matches. I want to see results that EXACTLY match what I am looking for. Why is this such an impossible ask for search eng…

You can use "word" instead of +word.

-word is still a thing that works a bit.

Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search

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There is so much Kagi references on HN that I’m slowly beginning to feel sus about it. I’m not saying this is happening (I’m not saying anyone is a shill). It’s just making me feel a little “hmm” about it.

I talk about it here, but I first stumbled across it on Mastodon. I think it’s more that the type of users Mastodon and HN attracts are the same type of people to pay for a search engine and be excited about a search engine. I have long hated that “free with ads” is the first and only business model anyone thinks can work on the internet, so I want to support companies that are willing to push back against that. Ads…

There's no lasting "paid, without ads" model.

There's only "free, with ads" and "paid, with ads eventually".

https://www.amazonforum.com/s/question/0D54P000079nP9wSAE/ho...

Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search

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My "bar" for how Google does here is how it treats recipe pages. I absolutely loath what SEO has done for recipe pages, because now essentially every recipe page looks exactly the same: 1. Tons and tons of content about the history of the recipe, how humans first domesticated wheat, when the ancient Egyptians first discovered yeast as a leavening agent, etc. etc. 2. Then, after thousands and thousands of words, there…

Download or buy a bunch of recipe books and then search inside them. They're of much greater quality. YouTube cooking videos are also superior in quality to anything you'll find on Google.

Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search

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I talk about it here, but I first stumbled across it on Mastodon. I think it’s more that the type of users Mastodon and HN attracts are the same type of people to pay for a search engine and be excited about a search engine. I have long hated that “free with ads” is the first and only business model anyone thinks can work on the internet, so I want to support companies that are willing to push back against that. Ads…

There's no lasting "paid, without ads" model. There's only "free, with ads" and "paid, with ads eventually". https://www.amazonforum.com/s/question/0D54P000079nP9wSAE/ho...

There's no lasting pizza either, because tomorrow it has been eaten. So you should never buy a pizza or any other food, because after a while it has literally turned to shit.
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