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Even if they ask, it seems to me you get to decide how you want to get involved (if at all).
sure. you don't have to show up. but then you're out of the club.
What if the USA "doesn't show up"?
Sweden Is a NATO Member
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#692Earlier quoted context omitted.
You, you can confidently state that at that time, they had at least one train.
I guess this is a reference to the joke, "no, what we know is that there is at least one sheep, at least one side of which is black." Unless we disbelieve what the guy said: we do know that they have at least the concept of a tank. He didn't actually say that they had any. That would have been a conversation-ending question for me to ask him. I don't know what those sheep statisticians would say if they hadn't seen t…
> I guess this is a reference to the joke ...
Yes, I can confirm that it is; busted!
> and had to rely on the testimony of other people
The sheep joke is not about believing people's reports or not, but about what may or may not be deduced from a report, given that it is accurate and true.
Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member
#693Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess this is a reference to the joke, "no, what we know is that there is at least one sheep, at least one side of which is black." Unless we disbelieve what the guy said: we do know that they have at least the concept of a tank. He didn't actually say that they had any. That would have been a conversation-ending question for me to ask him. I don't know what those sheep statisticians would say if they hadn't seen t…
> I guess this is a reference to the joke ... Yes, I can confirm that it is; busted! > and had to rely on the testimony of other people The sheep joke is not about believing people's reports or not, but about what may or may not be deduced from a report, given that it is accurate and true.
> The sheep joke is not about believing people's reports or not
yes, I know. I was speculating about something not part of the joke.
Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member
#694Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, if a comment is against guidelines you are supposed to flag it.
How would you propose a method of limiting the downvoting of comments that are salient and relevant but otherwise elicit a knee-jerk emotionally disagreeable response? Or do you consider that ability a feature? It seems to me to erode curious debate.
Not sure I understood your question, but you can't really control what others will do. E.g. people can downvote or flag without any reason whatsoever.
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Oh yeah, Russia will lose any moment now :D
The fact that Russia, without foreign support or not, has not managed to capture one of the poorest states in Europe is a joke. Imagine the US failing to capture Mexico after 2 years, even if Mexico got weapon supplies from abroad. That would totally discredit the US military.
Yes almost as ridiculous as the US not being able to pacify Afghanistan after 20 years of occupation.
Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member
#696Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a very weird way of phrasing that Russia has barely anything to gain while Ukraine has everything to loose. It's not like Russia needs any further territory, they are the largest country and haven't yet properly integrated the already invaded cultures.
They do seem to care about their accesss to the mediterranean sea though...
They already have it, even without Crimea.
Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member
#697One thing that isn't mentioned a lot in connection to this: Sweden and Denmark has a VERY violent history. Hundreds of years of wars. It is said to be the worst conflict in all of human history. Now we are allied and committed to defend each other. That's a huge thing for peace.
I have many Serbian friends going for holidays in Croatia. Unthinkable 30 years ago. So maybe, in 50 years from now, Russia will join NATO, too?
Hopefully! If the warmongers don't get to decide
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> NATO has thousands of planes. You mean US has. And someone like Trump may decide to not engage in conflict as part of NATO.
Wasn't Trump just upset NATO members weren't paying their dues? What am I missing here?
NATO isn't a pay-to-play organisation. NATO takes no money from countries. NATO has no forces of it's own to pay for.
There is a non-binding convention that member should spend 2% of their GDP on *their* armed forces. That way when other nations call for help they can respond. It's a guideline figure though and some countries do it and some don't.