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Can We Just Throw in the Towel on Airport Security Theater Already?

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Re: Can We Just Throw in the Towel on Airport Security Theater Already?

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I don't understand the hate for TSA. Sure, it can be better. But does anyone dare board a plane when none of the passengers have been screened?

Tons of people did dare in the past, and also continue to dare with regards to other transit.

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#12

I don't understand the hate for TSA. Sure, it can be better. But does anyone dare board a plane when none of the passengers have been screened?

yes, the way people dared to board planes pre-9/11, and the way people dare to board trains, buses, and ferries today.

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#13
post #5

We can stop dancing around the issue while pretending we don't understand why the TSA exists. In the aftermath of 9/11, the government has to be seen doing "something". This was the something. Then, in the following years, the TSA evolved into a welfare program for veterans, because here in the US we can't dream of just giving people money, we have to invent bullshit jobs that make society worse.

A jobs program with negative utility for the US. Would be nicer if the jobs program was picking up all the trash everywhere.

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#14
I would love one presidential candidate to include this in their platform. I have yet to hear this (unless I just missed this person!).

A massive overhaul & reduction in all of this security theater. NSA and others already do the heavy lifting of identifying people planning bad things. Can we just do a basic metal detector or something and call it a day?

Re: Can We Just Throw in the Towel on Airport Security Theater Already?

#15

I don't understand the hate for TSA. Sure, it can be better. But does anyone dare board a plane when none of the passengers have been screened?

If said plane is the only unscreened flight out of Tel-Aviv? Maybe I'd have some reservations.

But if all flights were completely unscreened? It wouldn't change what or when I fly.

I already board unscreened trains and busses quite often.

Re: Can We Just Throw in the Towel on Airport Security Theater Already?

#16

How many terrorists does any of the security theatre measures catch on a given day? One, ten, one hundred, one thousand? $20 says it's zero. How many bellicose self righteous idiots get through every day? Probably 10. Which causes more problems?

idk ... on the flip side I'm old enough to remember when the shoe bomber was caught MID-FLIGHT and people were rightfully scared.[1]

Like, holy shit: you can hide bombs in your shoes?! And that was only THREE months after the 9/11 attacks.

[1] https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/shoe-bomber-rich...

Re: Can We Just Throw in the Towel on Airport Security Theater Already?

#17
post #5

We can stop dancing around the issue while pretending we don't understand why the TSA exists. In the aftermath of 9/11, the government has to be seen doing "something". This was the something. Then, in the following years, the TSA evolved into a welfare program for veterans, because here in the US we can't dream of just giving people money, we have to invent bullshit jobs that make society worse.

I don't think most TSA employees are vets... I'm a veteran and it's relatively easy to identify a fellow vet most of the time.

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#18

How many terrorists does any of the security theatre measures catch on a given day? One, ten, one hundred, one thousand? $20 says it's zero. How many bellicose self righteous idiots get through every day? Probably 10. Which causes more problems?

There's a detterence factor in play. Terrorists won't try to get through precisely because of the intense security.

If there were terrorists, they would just open fire on the crowded security checkpoints and kill hundreds of people without any complex scheme. This doesn't happen because there is no terrorist threat we need to be on guard against.

Re: Can We Just Throw in the Towel on Airport Security Theater Already?

#19

I don't understand the hate for TSA. Sure, it can be better. But does anyone dare board a plane when none of the passengers have been screened?

We…we did. For 87 years of air travel we did. Went pretty darn good. People seemed to have fun with it. They even looked forward to flights.

What an odd comment.

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