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It's insanely cruel and fucked up. Imagining what this is like for the victims goes way, way beyond what calling it a "scam" implies.
It’s actual terrorism. It’s just small beans compared to other things which we usually call terrorism, but that’s what quite a large number of these “scams” are, small scale terrorism.
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It’s actual terrorism. It’s just small beans compared to other things which we usually call terrorism, but that’s what quite a large number of these “scams” are, small scale terrorism.
Ok, that's fine, but then we're going to need a new word to describe actual terrorism. This had/has a meaning that involves specifically targetting governments and destabilizing them.
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Interesting any article about the systems on denmark
It's more than Denmark, the Nordics in general use digital signatures for accessing banking, government services (tax agencies, healthcare, pension systems, etc.), online payment ID checks, and so on. In Denmark I believe NemID/MitID is the most used one, here in Sweden we have BankID (most used), and Freja eID, there are a few smaller ones as well; Norway has their own BankID that is independent from the Swedish one…
As horrible as this is, I suspect this will be far worse in enterprise companies. We’ve already seen issues with email impersonation where top managers or CEOs order money transfers, and since this works better than it should, we now use confirmation of some sort. Imagine if you’d get both the email and a call, maybe even a video call in the future with the confirmation… Especially CEOs will be very “easy” to imperso…
Or this guy https://www.npr.org/2019/03/25/706715377/man-pleads-guilty-t.... Do these companies not have proper process for sending so much money with multiple levels of people involved?
As horrible as this is, I suspect this will be far worse in enterprise companies. We’ve already seen issues with email impersonation where top managers or CEOs order money transfers, and since this works better than it should, we now use confirmation of some sort. Imagine if you’d get both the email and a call, maybe even a video call in the future with the confirmation… Especially CEOs will be very “easy” to imperso…
Ps: your insights are spot on. Been plagued by this issue for years. Deep fake is merely a refinement of a pre-existing fraud pattern.
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I doubt a single voice recording could generate speech with enough emotional depth that I'd be fooled by a fake call from my better half. Do people really have such a shallow connections to their loved ones that they wouldn't instinctively feel that something isn't right? C'mon, we humans operate with a lot of extra clues. Its not like we just STT and "read" the resulting output.
You're right to be suspicious but wrong in your interpretation of reality. The issue is that there's a big difference in how you'll interpret things in different environments and stress levels. Under pressure a lot of your normal checks will go out the window. This is why conmen often put you under time pressures, because they're stressing your system. Under normal circumstances, you're prefectly right, but under dur…
Your comment regarding enshitifcation has some truth to it I didn't really think about yet, thanks.
However, my original comment still stands as it is. I challenge anyone to create a voice scam that fools me.
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It's insanely cruel and fucked up. Imagining what this is like for the victims goes way, way beyond what calling it a "scam" implies.
"As horrible as this is, I suspect this will be far worse in enterprise companies."
To give the "strongest interpretation" I presume by worse they mean more prevalent. But I also think a fundamental lack of human perspective in the tech world is the real root cause of cybersecurity problems threatening society. I mean, in this context who seriously cares about "enterprise" or money?
It's right out of Terminator 2, except for the actually dead foster parents part.
Anyone believing AI will be a nice thing in the future: With data from social media it's a fucking nightmare - billions of people having their relationships visible to everyone and a singular voice recording/video is enough to scam your friends, family, workplace. I don't see a future of the current communication channels without strong authentication measures - people already get scammed with shitty tactics by billi…
I doubt a single voice recording could generate speech with enough emotional depth that I'd be fooled by a fake call from my better half. Do people really have such a shallow connections to their loved ones that they wouldn't instinctively feel that something isn't right? C'mon, we humans operate with a lot of extra clues. Its not like we just STT and "read" the resulting output.
Can you say the same thing about all of your friends and loved ones?
You don't have to personally fall for the scam for it to negatively impact you. Maybe your mom falls for it, and now she can't pay her mortgage.
Fake call scams already generate billions of dollars in stolen money. Telecoms let spam phone calls run rampant for a decade before being forced to fix it. AI video/audio deepfakes at scale could 10x this industry.