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iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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what are you talking about?

People lost their minds when Meta went down for like an hour the other day...

It was 4 hours according to their status page. [1]

[1] https://metastatus.com/facebook-login/history

Re: iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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> Whether or not that will be something the European Commission takes issue with, remains to be seen. After all, an EU citizen is an EU citizen even after they leave the EU. I fail to see how this is in any way relevant. Cannabis is legal in Canada, and Canadians remain Canadian citizens abroad. If they're caught with cannabis in a country where it's illegal, they will be prosecuted for breaking the law. Laws don't f…

If you murder a Canadian overseas, then visit Canada, they will happily detain you.

They'll detain you regardless of the nationality of your victim.

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I believe the grace period is entirely voluntary on their part, and since they're digging their heels in on the entire matter, I'm honestly surprised (though not impressed) by their generosity. > Apple had previously said that it would give EU citizens a period of graze Three paragraph article. Couldn't proof read it. Fair enough.

Everyone needs time to eat.

Re: iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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Does a european embassy count as EU?

Not only is this a great question, it's an excellent example of how pointless this arbitrary restriction is. Thanks, Tim Apple.

Who created an arbitrary policy?

EU regulators or Apple?

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IIUC this is a deliberate act of aggression by Apple - which is important to note. Apple already has regional accounts, so the infrastructure for this is in place already, for preexisting reasons. My Apple ID is still within US after months of being in the EU. They have not “kicked me out” yet. There’s no other way than to interpret this, and the preceding actions by Apple, as a temper tantrum of malicious compliance…

>[...]this is a deliberate act of aggression by Apple [...] >There’s no other way than to interpret this, and the preceding actions by Apple, as a temper tantrum of malicious compliance [...] While it's pretty clear that most people here would have liked it if Apple rolled out third party app stores to everyone and were hoping that EU regulations would extend to non-EU users (like with USB-C charging port standard),…

Exactly.

And yeah, the policies wind up arbitrary and weird....but that's because jurisdictions are arbitrary and weird. =

Re: iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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I wonder if you turn off location services, and use a european VPN, if you maintain access. If you do not have access, I would wonder if they would run across the problem google ran into with private browsing, that people expect to have privacy. In other words, if you turn off location services, that apple will not track your location and should have (legal) no way of knowing if you are inside or outside of the EU.

You'd probably also have to disable the cellular modem. If Apple are "smart" about this, they'll use location from cell towers.

I'm looking more from a legal standpoint than technical.

In other words, the court said normal people turning on "private browsing" expected what they were browsing was private.

In a similar fashion, maybe people turning off "location services" would expect their location to be hidden.

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A company that produces a device that fakes GPS (with extremely weak RF so as not to draw the ire of FCC or other government bodies) to convince the phone it is in Europe.

This would be illegal, even at a low power.

Faraday cage, where you will close the phone inside - Inside it will have WiFi VPNed to EU country and emulated GPS

Re: iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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> Whether or not that will be something the European Commission takes issue with, remains to be seen. After all, an EU citizen is an EU citizen even after they leave the EU. I fail to see how this is in any way relevant. Cannabis is legal in Canada, and Canadians remain Canadian citizens abroad. If they're caught with cannabis in a country where it's illegal, they will be prosecuted for breaking the law. Laws don't f…

How so? US citizens pays taxes to US government, even if they live on the Moon. So these duties are quite common.

Re: iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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Apple seems keen on demonstrating their dominance over government.

More like the fact that EU's reach isn't global, contrary to what many people here would like to be the case.

Brussels effect. EU come up with something, other powers will start implementing it too. Japan is already poking into Apple in the same way and India might join with their demands as well. I believe that China already has its own App Store and then you have only USA not willing to make regulations.
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