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iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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Re: iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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Apple really trying to be the asshole here. Imagine installing work apps that disappear after 30 days.. Also what happens if the user chooses not to share their live location with apple?

I wonder if you turn off location services, and use a european VPN, if you maintain access. If you do not have access, I would wonder if they would run across the problem google ran into with private browsing, that people expect to have privacy. In other words, if you turn off location services, that apple will not track your location and should have (legal) no way of knowing if you are inside or outside of the EU.

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Re: iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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But I thought the only reason Apple prevented third-party stores and sideloaded apps in the first place was to improve security. Therefore, I’m sure that disabling app updates once someone spends a month outside the EU must improve security, too. Right!? /s

It doesn't disable app updates. It prevents installing new apps. Edit: Actually misread that. It might prevent updates.

Are you sure about that? This makes it sound like updates also stop after 30 days:

"If you leave the European Union, you can continue to open and use apps that you previously installed from alternative app marketplaces. Alternative app marketplaces can continue updating those apps for up to 30 days after you leave the European Union, and you can continue using alternative app marketplaces to manage previously installed apps."

Re: iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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You never had the ability to install stuff outside the App Store before, so this is really just the status quo.

100% correct. Apple never dictated app operation, especially ones they officially support, via GPS before. 100% unforseeable.

Eh. AirDrop in China.

Re: iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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I don't know what they expect with this, but it will end with the EU's shoe up their asses.

I'm the exact opposite of a Apple fanboy, but can you enlighten me with what they are supposed to do here?

EU says "you must allow XYZ in our jurisdiction" so Apple allows XYZ in their jurisdiction.

Right?

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Tbh, this just seems like unintended consequences of policy. But explain what I'm missing.

Re: iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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Apple really trying to be the asshole here. Imagine installing work apps that disappear after 30 days.. Also what happens if the user chooses not to share their live location with apple?

I wonder if you turn off location services, and use a european VPN, if you maintain access. If you do not have access, I would wonder if they would run across the problem google ran into with private browsing, that people expect to have privacy. In other words, if you turn off location services, that apple will not track your location and should have (legal) no way of knowing if you are inside or outside of the EU.

You'd probably also have to disable the cellular modem. If Apple are "smart" about this, they'll use location from cell towers.

Re: iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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A company that produces a device that fakes GPS (with extremely weak RF so as not to draw the ire of FCC or other government bodies) to convince the phone it is in Europe.

Cell towers and wifi base stations announce country code too. There's no guarantee they're using GPS.

Yeah, if I was a betting man I would bet that they're using location from cell tower pings. Good luck with that.

Re: iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

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Not a credible threat. There would be millions of people in the streets if Facebook/Whatsapp/Google were blocked due to EU regulations.

what are you talking about?

Believe it or not, a lot of people like FAANG products and use them daily.

Imagine taking away your toddler's favorite toy. Forever.

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