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Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by mschuster91 »

One thing I won't ever understand is why we allow large airports to be located in a way that puts any kind of infrastructure, be it residential, commercial, transportation or recreational, under the flight path for critical phases (i.e. start/land). Right where I used to work there's a memorial placard for a plane that crashed in 1960 due to an engine failure [1], and maybe five minutes worth of walking from where I grew up is another memorial for a plane that failed to start, crashed into a house and led to the deaths of, among others, a significant number of players of the ManU squad [2].

There have been so many incidents and near-incidents that it should be a no-brainer, but eh, guess it's more important to have airports closer to (or even worse, inside) cities. Yes, yes, I know, airplane travel is one of the safest modes of transportation there is, but still, a dominant majority of accidents in commercial aviation happens during landing and takeoff [3]. GA is a bit different because it seems that a lot of GA pilots fuck up maneuvering [4], but still, takeoff and landing account for about half the incidents.

[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flugzeugungl%C3%BCck_am_17._De...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_air_disaster

[3] https://www.statista.com/chart/31529/most-airplane-accidents...

[4] https://www.redbirdflight.com/landing/general-aviation-accid...

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by fotta »

slt2021 wrote: post #10
fotta wrote: post #3

takeoff around 11:24am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haRC034bj-g landing around 1:17pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkdKhZSZiSM towed to the gate about 10min after landing you'll have to scrub because the streams are still live and I don't know how to timestamp a live stream

whats the time on the screen?

11:24am and 1:17pm

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by dbg31415 »

barbazoo wrote: post #8
dbg31415 wrote: post #6

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Except that Boeing has nothing to do with the maintenance of that airplane

I bet they have maintenance contracts, or partnerships with companies that do.

Seems like they would have at least said, “We know there have been some issues. We’ll incentivize you to sanity check everything. Pretty please?”

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by zerocrates »

Obviously many eyes will be on Boeing given recent history but I don't know that there's a particular reason to suspect them. In this case I'd look first at possible maintenance issues on United's end, or possibly a manufacturing issue with the wheel/tire.

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by barbazoo »

dbg31415 wrote: post #16
barbazoo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that Boeing has nothing to do with the maintenance of that airplane

I bet they have maintenance contracts, or partnerships with companies that do. Seems like they would have at least said, “We know there have been some issues. We’ll incentivize you to sanity check everything. Pretty please?”

United airlines has their own maintenance folks

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by whoknowsidont »

barbazoo wrote: post #8
dbg31415 wrote: post #6

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Except that Boeing has nothing to do with the maintenance of that airplane

That's not actually true. Airlines generally follow the procedures set forth by the manufacturer, and they do talk with each other quite a bit.

I think what you mean to say is that this is plausibly, _likely_ to be a failure on the part of United, not Boeing.

However this would not be the first time that manufacturers like Boeing recommend inadequate or faulty maintenance procedures.

Only time will tell.

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