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Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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Post by Filligree »

barbazoo wrote: post #15
vector_rotcev wrote: post #2

The AI Assistant in JetBrains is the best I've encountered. In Pycharm, specifically. I've tried using my OpenAI subscription directly to use GPT4, but copy-pasting between the browser and the lack of context (that GPT has of my code) is limiting. I've tried Copilot, but it just produces large amounts of junk code, and it gets irritating. JetBrain's AI Assistant is built into the IDE I use, it melds well with all the…

TIL that there's also Copilot plugins for Jetbrain IDEs

You also get them for Vim, Emacs, just about.

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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Post by thiodrio »

IanCal wrote: post #22

www.phind.com is what I've found to be the best generally, using searches. Their recent 70B model seems really good.

> Phind Model beats GPT-4 at coding, with GPT-3.5 speed and 16k context (phind.com)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38088538

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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Post by senseiV »

Filligree wrote: post #14
cheema33 wrote: post #12

I have been a big user of ChatGPT-4 ever since it came out. I have used in various forms. Through the chatbot, through GitHub Copilot etc. For the past year, I have looked high and low to see an alternative that performed better. Nothing came close. Until a few days ago with Anthropic released Claude 3. For software development work, it is very very impressive. I've been running GPT-4 and Claude 3 Opus side by side f…

How do you get access to Claude 3? It doesn’t seem to be available yet.

claude.ai

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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Post by beastman82 »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #5

OpenAI API key with GPT4 plus aider[1]: https://github.com/paul-gauthier/aider For reference against the actual product called “Copilot”, I would say this is actually useful, vs Copilot which I would use words like “glorified autocomplete” and “slightly better intellisense” to describe. Only really good for saving you some rote typing periodically. The primary limit with “aider” is the GPT4 context window, so really…

I love aider but it feels like a giant black box that consumes copious credits.

The output is amazing though, so I keep using it. But I feel like I have no insight or control. Maybe I should read the docs more carefully.

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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Post by harlanlewis »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #5

OpenAI API key with GPT4 plus aider[1]: https://github.com/paul-gauthier/aider For reference against the actual product called “Copilot”, I would say this is actually useful, vs Copilot which I would use words like “glorified autocomplete” and “slightly better intellisense” to describe. Only really good for saving you some rote typing periodically. The primary limit with “aider” is the GPT4 context window, so really…

re Cody - I found it very similar to Codium, Copilot, et al. Impressive when it works, but consistently has trouble identifying the right context to inject or using it effectively. At its best when writing code that does not require a lot of local context - speeding up standard operations that might need a lot of boilerplate or using publicly documented + stable APIs are where they shine.

re getting some keys - for most tasks I have not yet found a better tool than finding a chat interface to your liking, setting a fairly generic “you’re an expert programmer” system prompt with output instructions tuned to your needs, and manually adding relevant context (copy/paste) to your messages when relevant. I can’t wait for big content windows and RAG methods to improve enough to replace all that with one of assistants, but it’s just not there yet.

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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Post by neves »

Filligree wrote: post #17
tomwojcik wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it available via bedrock already?

Not sure what bedrock is, but last time I looked at their website it claimed it isn't available in my region. I'm in Ireland, so I interpreted that as "Not out yet".

Here is a list of countries Claude is available: https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/8461763-where-can-...

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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Post by switchbak »

AlexanderNull wrote: post #19

Neither Github Copilot nor GPT4 are worth your time. At best they partially guess the name of a function you're thinking about typing, at worst they give you almost a correct answer. I've been shocked by how close those models will get to almost understanding what you're attempting to do, while still fundamentally getting it wrong. Last month, after a while of realizing I was spending more time correcting suggestions…

I see a whole lot of potential in these tools, and in some domains they are starting to deliver on some of the promise. But by and large I agree with this statement - they're actually costing me time because I have to do the research to see where they went wrong. I'm better off learning it properly and idiomatically from scratch right now.

Re: Ask HN: What is the, currently, best Programming LLM (copilot) subscription?

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Post by switchbak »

barbazoo wrote: post #15
vector_rotcev wrote: post #2

The AI Assistant in JetBrains is the best I've encountered. In Pycharm, specifically. I've tried using my OpenAI subscription directly to use GPT4, but copy-pasting between the browser and the lack of context (that GPT has of my code) is limiting. I've tried Copilot, but it just produces large amounts of junk code, and it gets irritating. JetBrain's AI Assistant is built into the IDE I use, it melds well with all the…

TIL that there's also Copilot plugins for Jetbrain IDEs

I don't think it gets much love. I'm using it, and ... well I guess I get to stay inside my IDE, but other than that it just gets in the way.

Then again, I haven't given it much of a fare shake perhaps. I do find AI Assistant is a lot more compelling.

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