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Re: Profitable Until Deemed Illegal

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Wow. This is both genius, and despicable. It's amazing what kind of profit they drive, yet it seems like they're really taking advantage of people with gambling addictions, or poor money management skills.

So does the government and many charities, the entire city of Las Vegas and churches on Saturday nights across the country, every major sports league (not often directly), etc etc etc. Pretty much every business takes advantage of the fact that the consumer is lacking something, whether that's knowledge, time, money or material. It's the way capitalism works.

Good point; it's like a stupid people tax.

Unfortunately it's tricky for even smart people to avoid some of them.

Re: Profitable Until Deemed Illegal

#52

Reminds me of the old party game, Dollar Auction. Bidding's in 10-cent increments, and the prize is $1. The twist is that the top two bidders pay their bids, but only #1 gets the prize. Bidding will go far past $1 because, even though it's a loss to pay $1.10 for $1, the 90-cent bidder would rather lose 10 cents than 90. I've heard of bidding going up into the $20 range.

It's not just a party game, some auctions are actually run with those rules.

Re: Profitable Until Deemed Illegal

#53

What they're doing is most probably not illegal. What they are doing is leveraging a lot of little things to make themselves good cash. Let's be very clear - they use auctions. This is not a lottery. At the end of the day, the high bidder "wins" and pays the amount of the high bid to win the auction. Then Swoopo adds the (.75 * number of bids placed) to that figure. It's not inconceivable that that sum is less than M…

The interesting question is - how many of those bids are actually being placed by Swoopo?

That would almost certainly be illegal. That's basically a shill bid. Although, I'm inclined to believe the whole service is illegal.

Re: Profitable Until Deemed Illegal

#54
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This is awesome . They must be raking it in.

Here somebody who claims to be the CEO of Swoopo tells:

"We are currently shipping items totaling about $1.5 million to our winners every month."

http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-sh...

(Sorry for no permalink to comment, couldn't find one)

Also Wikipedia entry on Swoopo has unsourced revenue 20 million Euro in 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swoopo

Re: Profitable Until Deemed Illegal

#55

Reminds me of the old party game, Dollar Auction. Bidding's in 10-cent increments, and the prize is $1. The twist is that the top two bidders pay their bids, but only #1 gets the prize. Bidding will go far past $1 because, even though it's a loss to pay $1.10 for $1, the 90-cent bidder would rather lose 10 cents than 90. I've heard of bidding going up into the $20 range.

Wow. I need to play poker with those people.

After hearing about the outcome of this game you'd think that you'd have to be an idiot to get sucked in, but you'd be mistaken. We once did a dollar auction in an auditorium at Canada/USA Mathcamp -- not exactly a dimwitted group -- and bidding went up to $5.

Re: Profitable Until Deemed Illegal

#56
post #2

Wow. This is both genius, and despicable. It's amazing what kind of profit they drive, yet it seems like they're really taking advantage of people with gambling addictions, or poor money management skills.

It's amazing what kind of profit they drive...

I wonder how one could estimate their income...

Re: Profitable Until Deemed Illegal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generalisation. Making money and creating value are independent of one another. Good businesses do both.

Actually, good businesses only do the former. Great/exceptional businesses do both.

Sorry for my improper adjective use, apparently.

Re: Profitable Until Deemed Illegal

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post #56
post #2

Wow. This is both genius, and despicable. It's amazing what kind of profit they drive, yet it seems like they're really taking advantage of people with gambling addictions, or poor money management skills.

It's amazing what kind of profit they drive ... I wonder how one could estimate their income...

the wiki page lists revenue: 20 million Euro in 2008 ($28.3 million USD)
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