Sweden Is a NATO Member • Hacker News Board

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by avtolik » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:17 PM UTC

tharmas wrote: post #5

iam-TJ wrote: post #3

Looking at the flag colours I cannot but think that Sweden is paving the way for Ukraine's membership.

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If the people of Ukraine want to get in NATO for protection, how is this the West being arrogant?

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by tharmas » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:17 PM UTC

lawn wrote: post #2

Finally. I'm going to celebrate by opening a bottle of red wine from Ukraine, seems fitting.

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Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by s_dev » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:18 PM UTC

factorialboy wrote: post #16

bilekas wrote: post #4

This is great news and NATO benefits hugely from this. I have to hand it to putin for bringing further solidarity across Europe and NATO.

Don't forget the contribution and sacrifice of Ukraine

Or the blackmailing by Hungary and Turkey.

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by RecycledEle » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:18 PM UTC

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #9

bilekas wrote: post #4

This is great news and NATO benefits hugely from this. I have to hand it to putin for bringing further solidarity across Europe and NATO.

How does NATO benefit?

A bigger alliance is harder to defeat in war.

Also, a bigger alliance requires each member to contribute fewer troops to manage a common defense.

Sweden is a fairly wealthy country that can contribute the required amount to NATO.

Sweden's ports are beneficial in a potential Arctic conflict.

Finally, Sweden does not bring any new potential conflicts/enemies with it.

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by TomJansen » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:19 PM UTC

pphysch wrote: post #18

Serious question, what does this change? NATO gets a bit more revenue from Swedish taxpayers? So what?

The super strategic island Gotland, for one.

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by ethbr1 » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:19 PM UTC

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #9

bilekas wrote: post #4

This is great news and NATO benefits hugely from this. I have to hand it to putin for bringing further solidarity across Europe and NATO.

How does NATO benefit?

Sweden has a pretty advanced and self-sufficient defense industry for its size.

Examples: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stridsvagn_103 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_Launched_Small_Diamet...

PS: Not sure why parent is getting down voted for asking a neutral question. Curiosity!

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by KingOfCoders » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:19 PM UTC

iam-TJ wrote: post #3

Looking at the flag colours I cannot but think that Sweden is paving the way for Ukraine's membership.

I know Ukraine will not and cannot do this, but writing off it's East and Crimea would enable NATO membership and EU ascension.

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by Hamuko » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:20 PM UTC

tharmas wrote: post #22

lawn wrote: post #2

Finally. I'm going to celebrate by opening a bottle of red wine from Ukraine, seems fitting.

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Are you trying to say that Ukraine would've preferred to be completely taken over by Russia?

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by ttymck » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:21 PM UTC

RecycledEle wrote: post #24

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does NATO benefit?

A bigger alliance is harder to defeat in war. Also, a bigger alliance requires each member to contribute fewer troops to manage a common defense. Sweden is a fairly wealthy country that can contribute the required amount to NATO. Sweden's ports are beneficial in a potential Arctic conflict. Finally, Sweden does not bring any new potential conflicts/enemies with it.

I understand what you say is true in theory, but does this mean the US will deploy fewer troops in NATO theaters, in practice?

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by realusername » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:21 PM UTC

tharmas wrote: post #22

lawn wrote: post #2

Finally. I'm going to celebrate by opening a bottle of red wine from Ukraine, seems fitting.

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Something's missing in your comment, like which country is attacking Ukraine for example. That might sounds like a small detail but it has its importance on how the war can end.