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Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by cactusplant7374 »

bilekas wrote: post #4

This is great news and NATO benefits hugely from this. I have to hand it to putin for bringing further solidarity across Europe and NATO.

The exercise in team work has not been going great so far. It doesn't look like their is a path to victory in Ukraine and Europe is hesitant to commit any troops. There are some rumblings from Macron but most of Europe would prefer to send just enough weapons so Putin can't move forward and Ukraine can't push them out.

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by toyg »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #9
bilekas wrote: post #4

This is great news and NATO benefits hugely from this. I have to hand it to putin for bringing further solidarity across Europe and NATO.

How does NATO benefit?

By having to jump through fewer hoops to get the intelligence they already got before, and likely further restricting the field of operation for Russian forces in that area.

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by Hamuko »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #9
bilekas wrote: post #4

This is great news and NATO benefits hugely from this. I have to hand it to putin for bringing further solidarity across Europe and NATO.

How does NATO benefit?

Sweden has a pretty solid defense industry. Gripens and NLAWs for example are Swedish production.

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by dralley »

tharmas wrote: post #5
iam-TJ wrote: post #3

Looking at the flag colours I cannot but think that Sweden is paving the way for Ukraine's membership.

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And here I was thinking that "arrogant" was expecting a neighboring country, whose nation, identity and language you claim "aren't real", whose people you call "little Russians", would fall at your feet within days.

And flagrantly violating every agreement that has ever been made w/r/t Ukraine. And killing political opposition with impunity. And giving medals to every soldier in the units stationed in Bucha a few days after of the massacres were uncovered. And "annexing" regions of Ukraine where your soldiers haven't even reached, and putting them on official maps of Russia.

And using chemical and radiological weapons to conduct assassinations on UK soil. And blowing up Czech ammo depots.

And telling the world that if there were any Russian soldiers amongst the "little green men" in Crimea, they were merely on vacation.

And this trash: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60562240.

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by KingOfCoders »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #11
bilekas wrote: post #4

This is great news and NATO benefits hugely from this. I have to hand it to putin for bringing further solidarity across Europe and NATO.

The exercise in team work has not been going great so far. It doesn't look like their is a path to victory in Ukraine and Europe is hesitant to commit any troops. There are some rumblings from Macron but most of Europe would prefer to send just enough weapons so Putin can't move forward and Ukraine can't push them out.

It has been going better than the last 30 years. Military cooperation in Europe broke down with the last Reforger of '93. It is great that Europe cooperates more, the view of the US public on NATO can be seen in any US TV series or Hollywood film - it does not exist.

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by stronglikedan »

pavlov wrote: post #7

Just in time for Trump to do the rug pull he agreed with Putin back in 2018, when they met in Helsinki and Trump took care to even destroy translator’s notes. If he wins the election, NATO is toast and Putin has carte blanche over East Europe.

When, not if, and that's a good thing. I don't share your alarmist view. I think the other members of NATO will just start doing their fair share, as they should.
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