The Digital Markets Act is in force What happens now?

Post by aaomidi » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 3:45 PM UTC

nozzlegear wrote: post #19

occz wrote: post #10

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I would love to see the EU swiftly put down the law and make an example of Apple in this case. I'm sure it won't take too many 10% of global revenue-fines before they get in line.

Why should the EU fine 10% of Apple's global revenue when they're violating an EU-specific law? Shouldn't they just fine 10% of EU revenue? > I'm sure it won't take too many 10% of global revenue-fines before they get in line. I'm sure it won't take too many of those before Apple just decides to leave the EU wholesale, as it only accounts for around 10% of their own annual revenue.

Post by extraduder_ire » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:29 PM UTC

nozzlegear wrote: post #19

occz wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love to see the EU swiftly put down the law and make an example of Apple in this case. I'm sure it won't take too many 10% of global revenue-fines before they get in line.

Why should the EU fine 10% of Apple's global revenue when they're violating an EU-specific law? Shouldn't they just fine 10% of EU revenue? > I'm sure it won't take too many 10% of global revenue-fines before they get in line. I'm sure it won't take too many of those before Apple just decides to leave the EU wholesale, as it only accounts for around 10% of their own annual revenue.

Post by nozzlegear » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 6:08 PM UTC

extraduder_ire wrote: post #23

nozzlegear wrote: post #19

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Why should the EU fine 10% of Apple's global revenue when they're violating an EU-specific law? Shouldn't they just fine 10% of EU revenue? > I'm sure it won't take too many 10% of global revenue-fines before they get in line. I'm sure it won't take too many of those before Apple just decides to leave the EU wholesale, as it only accounts for around 10% of their own annual revenue.

It's global revenue (all the way up the ownership structure) because that closes one of the world's most obvious loopholes, where you create an EU-based subsidiary that takes a tiny commission for selling products/services from non-EU companies, therefore having minimal revenue to fine. The GDPR fine structure works the same way. Though, 10% is a limit, fines usually start smaller. If you've read up on BEPS, or most…

Post by skydhash » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 8:03 PM UTC

bcye wrote: post #7

MattJ100 wrote: post #4

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XMPP and Matrix already have WhatsApp bridges, though through they are not officially supported or accepted by WhatsApp. Hopefully what will change now is that such bridges can be updated to use officially-supported methods, which (if WhatsApp play nice) means they will be more reliable and user-friendly than they are today.

Isn't the bigger issue that these bridges require you still to have a whatsapp account? So it's just a different frontend, but you're still bound by Meta's TOS, PP and data collection.

Post by Arathorn » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 9:05 PM UTC

matricaria wrote: post #3

I’m very excited about WhatsApp having to interoperate with other messengers. As far as I know this starts Monday. But I also read that most other messengers are not interested as it would hurt their users privacy. Does anyone know if interoperability with XMPP or Matrix will be possible?