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Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

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It is very ironic that they sell it has "eco-compact dishwasher" when it require disposable chunk of plastic to use it. The amount of water saved will really not make up for the amount of plastic thrash created. From their website: "At Daan Tech, we’ve always believed that a more sustainable and fairer world is possible.", you really have to be cynical to write something like this and then sell a worse washing machin…

Permit me to disagree with about all of your conclusions here. First of all, the cassettes are returnable. This is also mentioned on their website. * https://daan.tech/discover-bob-cassette/ > Each Bob cassette is returnable and reusable. We refill them and put them back on the market. Close the loop, lower your carbon footprint. You're also NOT required to use the cassettes. You can just throw standard dishwasher ta…

Pretty sure he addresses every one of your criticisms.

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not fair, at least this actually works.

Just like Juicero, I’m sure you could squeeze the detergent out of the cassette with your bare hands and wash your dishes by hand.

BRB running a survey on SF on how many people can actually do that...

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

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Every time this gets posted to HN, the comments go straight for "DRM bad!", when the Bob dishwasher does NOT in fact require you to use the proprietary cassettes.

Can you elaborate? I found nothing on the product website about using off-the-shelf detergent.

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

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post #35

Every time this gets posted to HN, the comments go straight for "DRM bad!", when the Bob dishwasher does NOT in fact require you to use the proprietary cassettes.

Can you elaborate? I found nothing on the product website about using off-the-shelf detergent.

https://daan.tech/discover-bob-cassette/

Scroll down to FAQ, and expand the first question: Is the use of a Bob cassette mandatory?

LE: It's also mentioned in the rewind project's README.

> Credit where credit's due, Daan Tech didn't completely lock down the machine with Bob cassettes. Once empty, you can leave it there and add detergents manually.

https://github.com/dekuNukem/bob_cassette_rewinder?tab=readm...

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

#37

Don’t use rinse aid products, some have been found to damage the lining of your intestines at extremely low concentrations. Personally i never even noticed a difference when i did use them. https://www.aaaai.org/tools-for-the-public/latest-research-s... .

The study did not find damage at the concentrations typically used in household dishwashers. This is only for professional dishwashers.

You may have a point with regard to this article though, as the author uses professional dishwasher rinse aid and detergent without real knowledge of what is happening.

If you don't notice any difference when using rince aid, you may have very soft water. On many dishwashers (not sure about Bob), you are supposed to adjust the amount of rinse aid being used depending on your water hardness level, and for very soft water, it may very well be zero.

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

#38
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Don’t use rinse aid products, some have been found to damage the lining of your intestines at extremely low concentrations. Personally i never even noticed a difference when i did use them. https://www.aaaai.org/tools-for-the-public/latest-research-s... .

You can make your own rinse aid, just use a bit of citric acid (to chelate metal ions to soften the water), a dash of EDTA (also a chelator), and a mild surfactant.

But isn't it what the commercial rinse aids the article talks about are made of?

Doing stuff by yourself is always interesting, but rince aid is cheap, and according to the article, apparently harmless at the concentrations used in household dishwashers, so unless you want something specific, why bother?

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

#39
post #23

It is very ironic that they sell it has "eco-compact dishwasher" when it require disposable chunk of plastic to use it. The amount of water saved will really not make up for the amount of plastic thrash created. From their website: "At Daan Tech, we’ve always believed that a more sustainable and fairer world is possible.", you really have to be cynical to write something like this and then sell a worse washing machin…

Permit me to disagree with about all of your conclusions here. First of all, the cassettes are returnable. This is also mentioned on their website. * https://daan.tech/discover-bob-cassette/ > Each Bob cassette is returnable and reusable. We refill them and put them back on the market. Close the loop, lower your carbon footprint. You're also NOT required to use the cassettes. You can just throw standard dishwasher ta…

What's the carbon footprint of transporting the empty cassettes back for refilling?

What percentage of Bob's customers bother to do that?

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

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post #8
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not fair, at least this actually works.

Just like Juicero, I’m sure you could squeeze the detergent out of the cassette with your bare hands and wash your dishes by hand.

Dunno if I'd really want to put my hands in dishwasher detergent for long periods of time.

It's bad enough when I get a bit on my hands refilling Bob

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