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Re: The end of Airplane.dev

#61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite baffling that success is measured in how much you raise. Company burned more money than it made and winded down, impact on customers have been ultimately negative. Where's the success?

> Company burned more money than it made and winded down As far as I can tell that applies to neither Heap nor Benchling which were the companies OP cites as successes.

You are right I might have interpreted the message in a bad way.

Re: The end of Airplane.dev

#62

Was a former employee at Airplane. We were quite disappointed and surprised by the sudden choice to shut the company down. In many ways, we had good metrics, customers that liked us, a lot of runway, and a great team. In the end, the decision came to our CEO. While he never gave a clear reason why, it was pretty clear that he burned out and tossed in the towel.

I was curious about this article. How much of the AI hype was demoralizing to his perception of the company's future? Attempting to read between the lines, maybe he was down no more than just no-code. He might have thought AI would outperform in the same space where internal tools platforms (Airtable/Retool) currently live. Following that thought, perhaps Airtable/Retool may be looking to pivot away fast from low-code/no-code into AI-first connections to internal knowledgebases & databases.

https://www.airplane.dev/blog/no-code-has-no-future-in-a-wor...

Re: The end of Airplane.dev

#63
Founder of windmill.dev, the open-source alternative mentioned at the end. This market is tough, our customers are both very demanding and hard on price. We are doing very well because we kept the team very small but I cannot imagine the pressure to deliver when having raised 20x what we did.

I love what I'm doing and I feel very fortunate for the opportunity to build a startup in a domain that I cherish, devtools, and have grown to love demanding customers as people that care about our product. But if I wasn't passionate in it and its technical challenges, I think there are easier opportunities out there to make a successful startup and can easily imagine how disappointing this segment is with the track records they had as founders.

Re: The end of Airplane.dev

#64

Very clear and well-written article. I think that the author is likely to be correct that the CEO was overwhelmed by going alone. One thing not mentioned at all, though, is what the investors in Airplane might have wanted to happen. Seriously, ctrl-f for "investor", it doesn't show up even once. In addition to the CEO being overwhelmed and tired, it's very important to realize that: - Airplane raised a $32mm series B…

> return money to investors

Do the investors care? If they're not making 100x return on an investment, will they truly care about 0.5x return? My feeling is that most would just say "OK, you have a good team, you have money in the bank, pivot and go wild".

Re: The end of Airplane.dev

#65

Lesson for all of us (customers of SaaS companies): never depend of VC backed non profitable companies for critical components of your infrastructure or business processes. Always build on tried and tested open source software.

That's why I never use Supabase.

Re: The end of Airplane.dev

#67

Why was the employees' common stock worth $0? Liquidation preference for the outside investors? Related: How can a regular employee joining a startup know beforehand that there isn't a high chance of their equity (which is probably a significant part of their total comp) being worthless even if a big acquisition is made?

You don’t know. Its a gamble. Sometimes it pays off. Most times it doesn’t.

Re: The end of Airplane.dev

#68
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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that were the case, why wouldn't the CEO say so?

I probably would have in their shoes, but that is one of many reasons I am not CEO. Bosses tell polite fictions that preserve relationships.

Polite way to say that. Self-preservation almost always outweighs transparency regardless of the whether the truth is good or bad

Re: The end of Airplane.dev

#69
I really hope this trend of non-informative, common noun names for software comes to an end. Airplane, seriously? Why not Skateboard or Plywood or Shovel? I guess I have noticed it's a signal that the actual product is yet another boring productivity tool.

Re: The end of Airplane.dev

#70

Lesson for all of us (customers of SaaS companies): never depend of VC backed non profitable companies for critical components of your infrastructure or business processes. Always build on tried and tested open source software.

That's why I never use Supabase.

supabase is open source…
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