I wish there was button I could press so the eu/courts would address this immediately. So I don’t have to wait months/years.
Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS
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Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS
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Publishing a Chrome browser extension more-or-less requires being a customer of the Chrome Web Store. There are plenty of other examples, folks tend to give Playstation/Xbox/Switch stores in these conversations as well.
> Publishing a Chrome browser extension more-or-less requires being a customer of the Chrome Web Store Emphasis on more-or-less, though. You can use Chrome developer mode (which is NOT a paid option and doesn't require an account) to import extensions from files. You can't do that in iOS. That's Epic's point.
you don't need a developer account to sideload an app on ios, and it wouldn't change anything legally if you did (feature tiering is legal)
another classic example of android users who don't understand the things they're talking about. go on, tell me more about how "you can't copy and paste between applications in ios" or "there's not even a file browser" please.
(now, still not being able to figure out a calculator app on ipad? that's a fair one lol)
Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS
#433Whether or not Tim Sweeney has a legal leg to stand on, I'm so happy he keeps fighting this. Likewise with Spotify. I love that the EU is pushing legislation to give at least some people back control of their devices. I'm curious why Tim Cook thinks Apple can continue to treat developers they way they do for years on end and it won't slowly but surely come to bite them hard one day.
Tim Sweeney could lead by example and remove Unreal royalty fees and make his app store free for all. There's no freedom fighter here. Just another greedy troll.
> Tim Sweeney could lead by example and remove Unreal royalty fees and make his app store free for all. There's no freedom fighter here. Just another greedy troll. -zyang
Unreal Engine is free up to $1 million revenue and 5% after that.
How is that a "greedy troll"?
Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS
#434I just finished the last episode of The Talk Show podcast, where John Gruber says that Apple doesn’t hold a grudge and is only doing things because they make business sense. He said that because Apple approved Epic’s account and that they would be allowed their own App Store. I already that it was a bad take, but this shows it.
Apple doesn’t hold a grudge
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Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS
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"taxis generally can't refuse transportation to you" The fact that it happens says nothing about whether it's right or not. In my opinion it's wrong and immoral that taxis can't refuse to service you. But taxis are very regulated in many places. In fact, for example, Uber is illegal in Colombia. And still, despite their legal status, Uber is not only very used in Colombia, but it's also safer than getting a normal ta…
When there's a big power imbalance, putting the onus on the service provider to give a valid reason for denying customers can be more impactful than laying the burden on a user to prove there was discrimination. Depending on your race/ethnicity/disability/socioeconomic status, taxi drivers might refuse service even though it is against the law. It is easier to win against a taxi driver if they're obligated to explain…
I respectfully disagree because that goes against individual freedom. I understand that historically in the US there's been racism but that's no reason to erode individual freedom.
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I think the cracks will start to show the longer big apps don’t come to Vision Pro. Apple has spent the last decade pissing off developers and partners, and just when they need them the most - during the fragile time of getting an entire new platform off the ground - they are doubling down on being assholes. Every single review I’ve seen mentions that Netflix and YouTube aren’t on Vision Pro. One of the biggest appli…
Apple themselves seem to forget that a huge selling point for the iPhone/iPod Touch was video games. Seeing those bright flashy games rendering on such a beautiful screen in the palm of your hand- it blew everything else out of the water. Social media eventually took over as the killer apps, but for a while it was Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja on everyone's phone.
Exactly - and many of the Vision Pro reviews talk about Fruit Ninja being great!
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Totally wrong. Europe is Apple's 2nd biggest market. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/pdfs/fy2024-q1/FY24_Q1_Consol...
And it’s their least profitable.
What are you basing that claim on? As far as I can see Apple's financials only break out revenue by geography, not net income.
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#438This is egregious and deeply disturbing behavior from Apple. At this point it feels wrong to own an iPhone. I'm at a loss for words describing what Tim and their leadership team has done to this company that I used to admire so much.
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They're addicted to bad revenue here. Once they started with the App Store revenue and especially taking a cut on all transactions, they were locked in. It's a public company so number must always go up. If number doesn't go up, executives are gone and replaced with people who will make number go up. That means it's impossible for them to back out of the App Store revenue channel. They'll have to be forced out by gov…
They already have an ads business, fwiw.
And ads is the one line of business that is growing.
All of the privacy and app tracking restrictions conveniently relate to them having all of the tracking data and third parties not having it. Your data is "private", to everyone except Apple.
This is the reason Apple is violently opposing any software coming from sources they don't control.
The way the DMA was written is a convoluted joke. It could have been a lot simpler: hardware device makers shouldn't be able to block third party software. A more extreme case could prevent companies over a certain size from manufacturing hardware and the operating system.
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Why would a 4 year old breach of contract warrant a ban today instead of 4 years ago? The trigger was that Epic criticized Apple, that doesn't seem like a warranted reason to ban someone even if they did something bad 4 years ago. Also since the DMA bans arrangement that Epic breached before, there is no reason to suspect that the EU account will breach anything new now, I really doubt EU will let this slide.
presumably apple's ban on epic games is for life, not just for a year or two. and registering a new account doesn't change that - it's just ban evasion. to wit: you are still banned from reddit or paypal or any other online service, even if you create a new account. if they can link it they'll ban that one too. and this is a new account that epic games tried to register recently. so it got banned too. Not that comple…
> presumably apple's ban on epic games is for life, not just for a year or two. and registering a new account doesn't change that - it's just ban evasion.
They didn't ban every epic account back then, just the violating account. I am pretty sure most of epic games accounts are still there, just the fortnite account got banned.