Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 06, 2024, 7:39 PM UTC

swman wrote: post #358

layer8 wrote: post #334

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The issue is that Epic doesn’t want to be Apple’s customer in the first place. They want to publish iOS apps. The fact that this requires them to be an Apple customer is the core problem. Imagine if everyone wanting to publish a web app would have to be a customer of the respective browser vendors. Everyone complains about Google and Mozilla and Safari and Edge. Luckily, that doesn’t prevent us from having our web ap…

Then they should just not publish for iOS lol. Don’t like it? Don’t publish to it. As a consumer I want and like the tight restrictions apple puts on the App Store. It’s not like users can’t purchase stuff without paying the 30% premium added by developers to offset the apple tax. Just go to the website and buy there. And save the 30%. My parents who are older use iPhone. They don’t have to wade through trash like an…

Post by threeseed » Wed, Mar 06, 2024, 7:40 PM UTC

layer8 wrote: post #334

hizanberg wrote: post #18

If I had a Customer that spent years relentlessly complaining about my Company, I know I wouldn't want to have them as a Customer. It does present an interesting question on whether a Company can be forced to have a bad actor as a Customer, I guess this will be decided in the lawsuits to come.

The issue is that Epic doesn’t want to be Apple’s customer in the first place. They want to publish iOS apps. The fact that this requires them to be an Apple customer is the core problem. Imagine if everyone wanting to publish a web app would have to be a customer of the respective browser vendors. Everyone complains about Google and Mozilla and Safari and Edge. Luckily, that doesn’t prevent us from having our web ap…

Post by Jensson » Wed, Mar 06, 2024, 7:40 PM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #379

Jensson wrote: post #351

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Why would a 4 year old breach of contract warrant a ban today instead of 4 years ago? The trigger was that Epic criticized Apple, that doesn't seem like a warranted reason to ban someone even if they did something bad 4 years ago. Also since the DMA bans arrangement that Epic breached before, there is no reason to suspect that the EU account will breach anything new now, I really doubt EU will let this slide.

> The trigger was that Epic criticized Apple Epic has been criticising Apple almost every single day.

Post by samatman » Wed, Mar 06, 2024, 7:41 PM UTC

askonomm wrote: post #115

k33n wrote: post #43

Apple should get out of the European market entirely. Their product offering is literally incompatible with the laws that govern EU commerce. There's plenty of money to be made in Asia/Pacific and the Americas. Apple's walled-garden approach is innovative especially on the security and stability fronts and anyone who doesn't like that or wants alternative launchers should jailbreak their ios device or just use Androi…

As an EU citizen, I love Apple products and would hate if I had to use subpar alternatives like Windows/Linux laptops or Android phones, so I for one would like if this would end in a way that Apple would remain in EU.

Post by realusername » Wed, Mar 06, 2024, 7:41 PM UTC

scarface_74 wrote: post #377

realusername wrote: post #366

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Apple has nothing on their side aside from a few tweets criticizing them, that just won't cut it as an exemption to the DMA. It's not like Epic released malware or anything. Remember that the whole goal of the DMA is that actors like Apple and Google can't decide to block competiton on a whim, the exact thing they are doing right now.

According to the article, they have the official court ruling…