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Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

ergonaught wrote: post #102
hellcow wrote: post #83

Clearly the recent 1.8B Euro fine the EU levied against Apple didn't send a message. Perhaps the EU needs to ratchet it up by an order of magnitude.

More likely, Apple needs to withdraw entirely from the EU and see what happens.

> More likely, Apple needs to withdraw entirely from the EU and see what happens.

This uniquely American type of arrogance where TikTok/Huawei is guilty even if it complies will the laws, and American companies are innocent even if they break all our laws.

There are, I am afraid, only two ways to respond - aggressively or subserviently. As US economy loses its position as the centre of the universe, the second option becomes less appealing.

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Post by pornel »

ynniv wrote: post #181

Isn't Apple providing side loading for customers in Europe now? Sure, Apple is being petty, but I thought this is was what Epic asked for. Can anyone ELI5 this one?

No. There is no sideloading at all.

Apple very begrudgingly allowed creation of alternative AppStores (marketplaces) instead, which are still completely under Apple’s technical control, and still go through Apple’s review.

Apple requires having a 1 million dollar credit line to allow opening a 3rd party AppStore, so consumers or small devs can’t just bypass Apple’s AppStore.

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Post by munk-a »

xxpor wrote: post #211
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> with barely any checks on their political and financial power I fail to see the difference?

When was the last time a warlord stole your children?

Personally - never... but illegal adoptions are a very dark side of human trafficking so you may want to be more careful with your example. The truth is that we live in a far better society than fifty or a hundred or a thousand years prior - we have far more access to justice. But if you think that access to justice is universal then there are some hard truths in your future.

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Post by Jensson »

selectodude wrote: post #204
lapcat wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally wrong. Europe is Apple's 2nd biggest market. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/pdfs/fy2024-q1/FY24_Q1_Consol...

And it’s their least profitable.

Is it less profitable than China? Doesn't look like it. They operate in more than 2 markets.

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Post by infamouscow »

abduhl wrote: post #146
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if, and hear me out, execs could go to jail instead of just their company paying fines as if they're parking tickets? Would they still be as cocky?

The question you should be asking is: would execs still exist? And we know the answer to this from before the advent of corporations: yes, just as tycoons and barons with barely any checks on their political and financial power instead of as execs.

When this question is asked, it's always with an implicit bias that executives are all morally bankrupt demons that would be beaten to death by the public if not for police.

My response to that is: we should change the laws.

Nobody ever asks this question thinking about multi-generation family businesses where the executive is the head of household and if everything works out, the business will be passed down to their progeny.

Of course, it also begs the question why do we accept this?

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Post by kllrnohj »

kylerush wrote: post #212

There seems to be a libertarian slant to a lot of the comments on this. It reads as if most people believe they have an inalienable right to extend Apple’s products. In other words, it doesn’t matter what I do, what I say, or how I treat Apple, I have an inalienable right to extend their platform. A pretty bold take in my opinion.

It's not Apple's platform. It's mine. My device, my platform. I allow Apple to install software on my device, but it's my device. I own it, full stop.

This whole idea that a company can sell you a product but still retain exclusive ownership and decision making over that thing that they sold you needs to die. It's such an abusive relationship and deeply anti-user.

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