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Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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>In the past, Epic has denigrated Apple’s developer terms, including the Developer Program License Agreement (DPLA), as a prelude to breaking them.

>Given that pattern, Apple recently reached out directly to Mr. Sweeney to give him an opportunity to explain why Apple should trust Epic this time and allow Epic Games Sweden AB to become an active developer. Mr. Sweeney’s response to that request was wholly insufficient and not credible.

From Apple’s letter to Epic.

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

#86

If I had a Customer that spent years relentlessly complaining about my Company, I know I wouldn't want to have them as a Customer. It does present an interesting question on whether a Company can be forced to have a bad actor as a Customer, I guess this will be decided in the lawsuits to come.

Criticizing defects in a product or criticizing a vendor's misbehavior doesn't make you automatically a "bad actor". A healthy vendor/customer relationship involves having channels where this criticism can be exchanged without putting the vendor or the customer in a bad position, and the criticism results in a better product.

Instead, bug reports go into a black hole because Apple doesn't care, and they especially don't care about game developers, unless those game developers are running casino games or gacha games that bring in a billion dollars a year. Then Apple cares a lot - about 30%.

If a billion-dollar company is so thin-skinned that they can't handle having their policies criticized they're run by children.

Epic has historically brought in a lot of money for Apple, both directly - via titles like Infinity Blade and Fortnite - and indirectly - by enabling the developer ecosystem so more people can release titles on Apple platforms. In the past Epic helped promote new Apple product launches. Calling them a bad actor is ridiculous.

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

#87

If I had a Customer that spent years relentlessly complaining about my Company, I know I wouldn't want to have them as a Customer. It does present an interesting question on whether a Company can be forced to have a bad actor as a Customer, I guess this will be decided in the lawsuits to come.

If your company has a market segment captured, you should not have any right to do that, irrespective of your feelings.

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

#88

Feels like a mob boss sending a message. "We own this platform, we make the rules, and we don't care who you are or how big you are, you mess with us we'll terminate your account and revenue stream." C'mon EU, do something.

We own this platform, (we built this platform), we make the rules

I don't see the issue with this... it's not like they're exploiting an inherited platform like Oracle with (everything), IBM with Red Hat or Broadcom with VMware.

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a valid reason to terminate it.

Are you believing a “trust me bro” comment?

Apple says they did it for no reason other than that they could, not because Epic violated anything.

> “Epic’s egregious breach of its contractual obligations to Apple led courts to determine that Apple has the right to terminate ‘any or all of Epic Games’ wholly owned subsidiaries, affiliates, and/or other entities under Epic Games’ control at any time and at Apple’s sole discretion.’ In light of Epic’s past and ongoing behavior, Apple chose to exercise that right.”

https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/06/apple-terminates-epic-game...

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

#90
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Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39617729 (1 hour ago, 72 comments)

Mysteriously not on the front page.

It’s not mysterious. Every time this happens it’s because the thread triggered a flame war filter.
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