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New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search
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Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search
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The first time I visited "Love and Lemons" (the first non-sponsored link I got) I scrolled down looking for the actual recipie until I gave up. Right before you made this comment I checked again and found the link to the recipie under the introduction as you described.
Most if not all recipe sites have a jump to recipe button, as de facto required by search engines.
Is that really a ranking signal?
Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search
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The privacy, spam, signal to noise, and user experience equation is different for everyone. For me it's a good tradeoff since they (say) don't store your history and the ad profile Google builds on you is probably more damaging to your privacy than a photo of the entire contents of your wallet.
> they (say) don't store your history They don't show your history. > the ad profile Google builds on you is probably more damaging to your privacy than a photo of the entire contents of your wallet. I can take measures to prevent Google from linking together a full profile. It sucks that it's necessary, but once you log in it's effectively game over. And your payment info has enough stable identifiers that it's triv…
Kagi explicitly promises not to store your history[1] and then takes your money based on that promise. If they do store your history, then they are committing fraud on a grand scale.
Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search
#104As AI generated content takes over the web, algorithmic search will become increasingly useless. In fact, for many things - like what to buy - it already is useless. Your best bet is asking your family/friend/neighborhood groups. If I had trillions like google does, I'd invest in hiring a whole bunch of humans to curate a search index that is actually useful. It's something a new player will never be able to scale up…
Right, LLMs will change the world, we know.
Algorithmic search has been useless for 5+ years. LLMs will just generate those spam pages faster, but they're already there.
Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search
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It's 299 words (so close to a round number!) of worse-than-useless filler before the recipe. You get two amazon sponsored links and one blog plug for some author with that. There's also an interstitial you have to click through. I can see why GP was not impressed.
The very first thing on the page is a "Jump to recipe" link. If you too are a victim of dwindling attention spans like the rest of us, you have the option to skip straight past the beautiful photos and background.
Looks like these spam pages work because some people actually like them...
That would be a major problem for hand curated indexes.
Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they (say) don't store your history They don't show your history. > the ad profile Google builds on you is probably more damaging to your privacy than a photo of the entire contents of your wallet. I can take measures to prevent Google from linking together a full profile. It sucks that it's necessary, but once you log in it's effectively game over. And your payment info has enough stable identifiers that it's triv…
Kagi explicitly promises not to store your history[1] and then takes your money based on that promise. If they do store your history, then they are committing fraud on a grand scale. [1] https://kagi.com/privacy
I see lots of promises, but very little proof. While, again, running a business model that massively increases the inherent risk compared to the competition.
Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search
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I prefer not having my full search history linked to my personal info and payment details, but that's just me.
> I prefer not having my full search history linked to my personal info and payment details, but that's just me. From Kagi Settings page, search history toggle: Save My Search History Currently this option can not be turned on. Kagi does not save any searches by default. In the future we may add features that will utilize your search history and then we will allow you to enable this. I encourage readers to think thro…
That's exactly what a honeypot would write.
Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kagi explicitly promises not to store your history[1] and then takes your money based on that promise. If they do store your history, then they are committing fraud on a grand scale. [1] https://kagi.com/privacy
I see lots of promises, but very little proof. While, again, running a business model that massively increases the inherent risk compared to the competition.
One of the best things about paid business model for search is that it aligns incentives and decreases the risk of data mining as the business makes money through subscriptions, without any need for ads/selling data.
Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search
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How do they plan to monetize it? How many people will pay for Search? Will they have an ad-supported version? If so how would their direction be any different when they face the same problems?
It’s a monthly subscription that apparently a lot of people are willing to pay for, feels like an honest business which is shocking in tech.
How much is "a lot"? The HN bubble doesn't count.
Re: New ways we're tackling spammy, low-quality content on Search
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see lots of promises, but very little proof. While, again, running a business model that massively increases the inherent risk compared to the competition.
One of the best things about paid business model for search is that it aligns incentives and decreases the risk of data mining as the business makes money through subscriptions, without any need for ads/selling data.
Doing one doesn't prevent them from doing the other. It gives them more data about you to sell, while limiting the dataset to gullible rich people who think that you can capitalism yourself out of the problems of capitalism (the prime advertising target demographic).