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And that’s just Facebook. Pretty much everyone outside of the us depends on WhatsApp to communicate. From regular people to businesses.
why do people say "outside of the US". Everybody I know in the US uses whatsapp
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I have been using HN daily since I was a teenager. I've seen that message maybe 10 times outside of serious issues in last 15 years. It's strange to me that it happens so frequently for you.
That's difficult to believe to be honest. I get it several times a week.
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> My FB password is 96 bits from /dev/urandom in a GPG-based password manager I wrote for myself a couple decades ago. We have the same approach to password management!
that's actually really cool, i hadnt considered writing my own password manager but i feel like it'd be a fun and fairly useful project, did it take you particularly long to do? i'm interested in giving it a go :D
Have a look at https://www.passwordstore.org/ and also https://github.com/kmag/store_password_gpg
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yes why? Are all your friends in the same place in the world with the same phone number? That would seem odd
More or less yes. I certainly don't need facebook to keep in contact with them.
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#876Looking at the Downdetector home page [1], it looks like many more services are having outages, not just the ones owned by Meta, including: - Google - YouTube - Google Play - T-Mobile - X (Twitter) - Discord - TikTok - Pokemon Go - Snapchat It looks like they all have the same failure point. [1] https://downdetector.com
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#878This might be the end of Facebook if it lasts long enough. Invalidating people’s sessions on apps? That’s a HUGE cost. There’s a huge % of users that won’t be able to get back in.
I've known several people who, when they got signed out, couldn't remember their password and access their email, and so made a new account. I'm sure Facebook will see a spike of this.
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There are quite some harsh comments here below. You can't plan for every possible failure point, who knows what part of a system/infra out of everything that they have went down and triggered this behaviour. Some things you just can't catch/predict. Especially in huge systems like theirs. I would expect people here to understand things like these and not just call people names for something like this, we all know thi…
This is a company with one of the largest digital infrastructures in the world. An outage is understandable, inability to tell they're having an outage and inform users appropriately is not. Stop making excuses for people who are literally awash in resources.
This is a pretty weird outlook to have - looking at any group awash with resources, whether it be governments or other companies, and you can clearly see that even with those resources, failures still happen.
You can jump up and down and pretend that this is solvable, or you can look at reality, look at all the evidence of this happening over and over to almost everyone, and conclude with some humility that these things just happen to everyone.
(Looking this reality in the face is one of the things motivating my beliefs around e.g. AI safety, climate change, etc.)
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Facebook login is also not working but status page is not updated. https://metastatus.com/facebook-login Platform Status : No known issues Mar 5 2024 4:38 PM GMT+1 The service is up and running with no known issues.
They can't log in to update the status page about facebook login because they use facebook login for auth on the status page! Joking aside, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case, because during their last major outage (something related to DNS iirc) they were having issues pushing fixes because they couldn't login because their DNS was down. EDIT: seems like the status page was recently updated.