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I was considering buying the Quest 3 this morning, this outage is timely. The fact that I can't use my perfectly working headset to play an offline game because facebook is down, makes me wonder if I should go for a different provider. Any recommendations? Excluding apple vision pro since it is too expensive.
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I can confirm that I was unable to use my Quest 3 this morning. I left it connected to the internet, it tried to phone home I guess, and then locked itself into a "please connect this headset to your Meta account" state. I am so sick of companies "selling" computers that they continue to control. In what universe does Meta have the right to remotely lock my headset and prevent me from using it to run the software I i…
I can understand your frustration but were you not aware of the software lock in when you bought it? I'm not defending the ownership erosion, but I avoided these things specifically because of who was selling it and how it was locked to them.
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A silly comparison. A standalone VR headset is more comparable to a smartphone or game console than a monitor or keyboard. The latter have little to no compute.
So compute requires vendor lock in? That seems silly to me. Edit: Can we just acknowledge that a lot of the bells and whistles are for the companies benefit at the expense of the user? Thats their right, but it's also our right to want something better.
Correct, it's very similar to game consoles, though it is somewhat more open than those (sideloading is possible, including standard Android apps IIRC, and you can run PC VR games from other stores while tethered).
> Can we just acknowledge that a lot of the bells and whistles are for the companies benefit at the expense of the user?
It's the same model as XBox or Playstation, seems like. They sell the hardware at cost or at a loss, and make it up via software.
A fully open headset with comparable specs would probably cost much more for the hardware. From a business standpoint that would be very stupid for a company like Meta, but this is hacker news, and many commenters here see nothing wrong or silly about asking businesses to commit suicide.
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Why are you serious about that?
People casually doing things that feel slightly evil is... disconcerting. Not going to judge anyone, but also nothing to be happy about.
No system changes that, or makes it better, just different.
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Blaming an outage on DEI... Man that's a new one for me. Could you let us know where you work? I want to make sure I never apply there.
Bwahaha, just wait until you see the shrapnel flying over the next year. You don’t think the steady erosion in system reliability and ever increasing outages is unrelated to these pressures do you? I’ve seen the sausage being made at the middle manager level in big corp for a long time. It’s never any one person/hiring decision, but the pattern and it’s impact has been obvious (and getting unavoidable) for a long tim…
Outages have steadily decreased at major companies. I don't know what you're looking at.
Remember AWS taking out a good chunk of the internet many times a year because their east coast data center kept going down? Remember the fail whale meme-ing because Twitter was so unstable?
Industry site reliability has only gotten better over the years.
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The Quest 3 is kind of the obvious mainstream consumer choice for a VR headset. Standalone wireless headset, reasonably powerful chipset, can optionally stream from a PC either wired or wireless, good optics/resolution, decent controllers/tracking, large game library, large suite of features (including hand tracking and color passthrough), all for a reasonable price. Not sure any other headset really competes on all…
can we really call it standalone if you need it to phone home to Meta? and doesn't it require an account one of their services too? they did a fantastic job with hardware. I just wish they didn't couple the software so tightly.
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That's difficult to believe to be honest. I get it several times a week.
I get something like that when I try to comment and then upvote too quickly.
I was considering buying the Quest 3 this morning, this outage is timely. The fact that I can't use my perfectly working headset to play an offline game because facebook is down, makes me wonder if I should go for a different provider. Any recommendations? Excluding apple vision pro since it is too expensive.
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can we really call it standalone if you need it to phone home to Meta? and doesn't it require an account one of their services too? they did a fantastic job with hardware. I just wish they didn't couple the software so tightly.
> can we really call it standalone if you need it to phone home to Meta? Yes.
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I can understand your frustration but were you not aware of the software lock in when you bought it? I'm not defending the ownership erosion, but I avoided these things specifically because of who was selling it and how it was locked to them.
Not OP but I bought a Rift when it was still just Oculus. ...then Facebook bought Oculus... ...and then required you to have a Meta account to continue using the Oculus drivers. It's a real "boil the frog" strategy and this is still early days for VR in terms of realized market value. The time to push back on this bullshit is yesterday. As we can all see, nobody can compete with Meta on price with the Quest 3, but th…
Of course, OP owns a Quest 3 so its more cut and dry there.