It looks like AWS is down if we can trust downdetector which is reason why nothing works. Almost fifty percent of these services runs on this cloud.
We can’t trust downdetector. Its just user reports. And users dont know anythig
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But there's something off here. I wouldn't expecting to be shown as logged out when the services are down. I'd expect calls to fail with something aka 500 and an error showing "something happen edited on our side". Not all the apps going haywire.
At the scale of Meta, "down" is a nuanced concept. You are very unlikely to get every piece of functionality seizing up at once. What you are likely to get is some services ceasing to function and other services doing error-handling. For example, if the service that authenticates a user stops working but the service that shows the login form works, then you get a complex interaction. The resulting messaging - and thu…
Isn't this just the standard problem of reporting useful error messages? Like, yes, there are academic situations where you can't distinguish between two possible error sources, but the vast majority of insufficiently informative error messages in the real world arise because low effort was applied to doing so.
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#663I was considering buying the Quest 3 this morning, this outage is timely. The fact that I can't use my perfectly working headset to play an offline game because facebook is down, makes me wonder if I should go for a different provider. Any recommendations? Excluding apple vision pro since it is too expensive.
I can confirm that I was unable to use my Quest 3 this morning. I left it connected to the internet, it tried to phone home I guess, and then locked itself into a "please connect this headset to your Meta account" state. I am so sick of companies "selling" computers that they continue to control. In what universe does Meta have the right to remotely lock my headset and prevent me from using it to run the software I i…
Ubisoft Director of Subscriptions really opened the floodgates of bad behavior when they came out saying "Gamers need to get comfortable with not owning their games".
I think these companies need to be reminded they do not own our PCs either.
I'm really starting to like that mantra of "If buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing".
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> I don't really trust Down Detector, which despite the claims is really People Winging on Twitter Detector. I'm confused. Isn't listening for spikes in complaints about outages a great way to detect them? I know for a fact some service companies monitor social media channels for this purpose (among others). I'd be surprised if that wasn't more or less standard practice. I've checked Down Detector for ISP outages in…
> Isn't listening for spikes in complaints about outages a great way to detect them? When there's a major ISP outage, people report problems with all the major sites. When Facebook's down, people report problems with any site that has "Login with Facebook" as an option. It's almost never actually an outage impacting all of FAANG at once.
> When there's a major ISP outage, people report problems with all the major sites. When Facebook's down, people report problems with any site that has "Login with Facebook" as an option.
Yes? That's how all top-level reporting is going to work. It's not going to tell you which part of your service is inaccessible. It's just telling you that people can't access it. You obviously have to do additional investigation to figure out why people are having trouble.
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The Quest 3 is kind of the obvious mainstream consumer choice for a VR headset. Standalone wireless headset, reasonably powerful chipset, can optionally stream from a PC either wired or wireless, good optics/resolution, decent controllers/tracking, large game library, large suite of features (including hand tracking and color passthrough), all for a reasonable price. Not sure any other headset really competes on all…
can we really call it standalone if you need it to phone home to Meta? and doesn't it require an account one of their services too? they did a fantastic job with hardware. I just wish they didn't couple the software so tightly.
I know they raised the price recently but it seemed pretty obvious to me they were selling these at a loss to try and get people locked in by the software.
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Same, thought all of my friends were getting spammed and i'll look like a "boomer" who got phished. Then i remembered i have a very long and secure password, then immediately panicked about someone having access to my Gmail. The sense of security is more brittle than i thought.
On a psychological note, I think the threat detection part of our brain doesn't always notify our conscious thought that it's actively monitoring for threats. I've often noticed that when I'm carefully handling a hot frying pan then my ringing phone is more likely to startle me than usual.
When you've already got one threat on your hands you're less prepared for anything else.
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#667I was considering buying the Quest 3 this morning, this outage is timely. The fact that I can't use my perfectly working headset to play an offline game because facebook is down, makes me wonder if I should go for a different provider. Any recommendations? Excluding apple vision pro since it is too expensive.
The Quest 3 is kind of the obvious mainstream consumer choice for a VR headset. Standalone wireless headset, reasonably powerful chipset, can optionally stream from a PC either wired or wireless, good optics/resolution, decent controllers/tracking, large game library, large suite of features (including hand tracking and color passthrough), all for a reasonable price. Not sure any other headset really competes on all…
The parent's comment is about how it quite literally is not a standalone headset, as is currently being demonstrated.
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how many people, realistically, use it daily? I think not a lot
>Facebook: global daily active users 2023. >Statista https://www.statista.com › statistics › facebook-global-dau Feb 9, 2024 — During the fourth quarter of 2023, the number of daily active users on Facebook reached 2.1 billion, a minor increase on the previous quarter. So roughly 28% of the planet.
Facebook accounts != individual humans.
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#669I was considering buying the Quest 3 this morning, this outage is timely. The fact that I can't use my perfectly working headset to play an offline game because facebook is down, makes me wonder if I should go for a different provider. Any recommendations? Excluding apple vision pro since it is too expensive.
I can confirm that I was unable to use my Quest 3 this morning. I left it connected to the internet, it tried to phone home I guess, and then locked itself into a "please connect this headset to your Meta account" state. I am so sick of companies "selling" computers that they continue to control. In what universe does Meta have the right to remotely lock my headset and prevent me from using it to run the software I i…
I can understand your frustration but were you not aware of the software lock in when you bought it? I'm not defending the ownership erosion, but I avoided these things specifically because of who was selling it and how it was locked to them.
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You're witnessing the greatest attack on Internet infrastructure in history. Amphibious assault on Taiwan imminent.
Why do you think they do this to our social medias and our phones? To have control? To track? To shut us down so we have nothing? Like what is your thoughts on what they are trying to do? As in there plans or what are they trying to accomplish
Confuse your enemy. Disrupting civil communication before large scale maneuvers is part of the modern doctrine.