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Re: Meta outage

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Well, I've been spitballing 1-3 years for effects of layoffs to affect company performance, so this timeframe is about right

Yup. That it’s related to the elections is also predictable, due to stress. Made worse in big corp due to affirmative action + lack of enough qualified candidates meeting diversity criteria. Which is inevitable when you have coarse criteria applied to such a large industry this way so quickly, as it takes decades for anyone to be qualified for the senior roles, and many years for junior/mid level, even if there were…

Your spitball is flying in a completely different universe than my spitball. Imo anytime you have layoffs that cut so deep, you cut through informal capability, knowledge and relationships that take a long time to form. If anything DEI helps create internal resilience because the personal networks end up a little different, giving you wider and more angles of coverage.

HN talks about people in open source holding up major functionality with little to no recognition. That happens within corporations too. Indiscriminate layoffs may directly fire those people, or signal to them that it's better to move elsewhere leaving gaps that only get discovered over time.

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Looking at the Downdetector home page [1], it looks like many more services are having outages, not just the ones owned by Meta, including: - Google - YouTube - Google Play - T-Mobile - X (Twitter) - Discord - TikTok - Pokemon Go - Snapchat It looks like they all have the same failure point. [1] https://downdetector.com

What's your fave conspiracy theory? Massive cyberattack for Super Tuesday? Powers-that-be mandated takedown? Mossad sleeper agents activated? Covid-brain struck that one engineer attending to that one wire that kept everything going?

Houthis destroying underwater cables in the Red Sea.

Re: Meta outage

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What could affect so many different services? Some DNS server? Clould provider like AWS?

Underwater cables seemingly got attacked; the Red Sea situation is likely related: https://apnews.com/article/red-sea-undersea-cables-yemen-hou...

Timeline doesn't seem to line up

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Looking at the Downdetector home page [1], it looks like many more services are having outages, not just the ones owned by Meta, including: - Google - YouTube - Google Play - T-Mobile - X (Twitter) - Discord - TikTok - Pokemon Go - Snapchat It looks like they all have the same failure point. [1] https://downdetector.com

HN seems to be struggling too, but that could just be everyone here to talk about the outages.

That's the standard HN experience, this site runs on a single core I believe.

Re: Meta outage

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It logged me out and told me that my credentials were incorrect; I thought my credentials had been stolen, so I'm kinda personally glad that it seems to be happening to a lot of other people too. I know that's a bit selfish, but :shrug:

A much better UX would be clear error messaging informing users that the service is down and there is no problem with their individual account. This would prevent people from panicking they've been hacked and/or unnecessarily resetting their password.

There are quite some harsh comments here below. You can't plan for every possible failure point, who knows what part of a system/infra out of everything that they have went down and triggered this behaviour. Some things you just can't catch/predict. Especially in huge systems like theirs. I would expect people here to understand things like these and not just call people names for something like this, we all know things seem simple/clear from the outside, but the job of debugging and fixing something like this take quite some effort.

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Much better defense if someone accuses you of racism - you still have not shown that I am wrong.

So you're saying you do own your racism. Well good for you, one of the brave racists -- now we know what kind of a person you really are. But it doesn't mean you're right, it just means your opinion is worthless and you're not worth debating because you're an intellectually dishonest bigot, even worse for believing in scientific racism.

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Your beloved scientific racism is not reality, it's a pseudoscience, as foolish and wrong as Astrology and Phrenology and Homeopathic Medicine. You're still a intellectually dishonest bigot.

If you're so intellectually honest and sure of yourself, then why don't you state right now unequivocally for the record that you're an unrepentant racist bigot?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism

Scientific racism, sometimes termed biological racism, is the pseudoscientific belief that the human species can be subdivided into biologically distinct taxa called "races", and that empirical evidence exists to support or justify racism (racial discrimination), racial inferiority, or racial superiority. Before the mid-20th century, scientific racism was accepted throughout the scientific community, but it is no longer considered scientific. The division of humankind into biologically separate groups, along with the assignment of particular physical and mental characteristics to these groups through constructing and applying corresponding explanatory models, is referred to as racialism, race realism, or race science by those who support these ideas. Modern scientific consensus rejects this view as being irreconcilable with modern genetic research.

Scientific racism misapplies, misconstrues, or distorts anthropology (notably physical anthropology), craniometry, evolutionary biology, and other disciplines or pseudo-disciplines through proposing anthropological typologies to classify human populations into physically discrete human races, some of which might be asserted to be superior or inferior to others. Scientific racism was common during the period from the 1600s to the end of World War II, and was particularly prominent in European and American academic writings from the mid-19th century through the early-20th century. Since the second half of the 20th century, scientific racism has been discredited and criticized as obsolete, yet has persistently been used to support or validate racist world-views based upon belief in the existence and significance of racial categories and a hierarchy of superior and inferior races.

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Naively, divide ad revenue by time to get a dollars-per-time. But thats naive because ad serving isn’t totally sold out so they can make up for it by increasing the density of ads in the next time window. If the outage is short, then the impact is small. But some markets are totally sold out and there’s no making up for lost impressions.

This is something I've thought about a while back. Like Facebook probably has a "maximum number of ads shown to users per post" value. So theoretically, they have a ceiling for how many ads can be bought in a specific time frame before having to increase the ceiling/find new users. Do they share data about this?

> before having to increase the ceiling/find new users.

Or raise the prices of ads.

Re: Meta outage

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all of them are using oauth, likely auth provider issue?

https://www.cloudflarestatus.com is reporting an issue with SSO login. So seems like you might be onto something..

Definitely not us.
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