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Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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I loved the book but the story imo has not aged well. Too much of white savior going on and too much colonialism. I would not describe myself as "woke", I can see why the teenage me loved it, yet my adult self cringes too hard. Particularly now as multiple post-colonial wars are happening. Also, I do not think a mega-promoted mega-budget Hollywood blockbuster needs more marketing here. "Esquire says" - so what?

White savior? Did you even watch the movie?

Yes. Why?

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Plenty of good sci-fi, but mostly on TV. Still, you're also probably overlooking how common sci-fi films are. Like say, Ad Astra with Brad Pitt (2019). The Martian in 2015. Blade Runner 2049 . And so on.

> Plenty of good sci-fi, but mostly on TV. Care to share? I can't name a single one besides 'The Expanse'.

Foundation on Apple TV+ is great.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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I'd put Everything Everywhere All at Once on that list, depending how you define sci-fi. One of the best films of the decade, in my opinion.

I really want to know why you liked it, reason I ask is I came into the movie wanting to love it and couldn't finish it(ended it half way). I just disliked it so much. For me: the story seemed so childish(like a middle schooler wrote it), the characters didn't seem quite interesting(I did like that the main character was an older lady as you do not see that typically in film), and the dialogue really corny. I know al…

For me, there's a lot more going on in this film in the subtext. It's a story about people struggling to find meaning and beauty in an absurd and often cruel world where everything is kinda going to shit.

I also love a good martial arts movie, and Michelle Yeoh is awesome. The fight scenes are fantastic and hilarious. And finally, the film manages a big-budget feel while it cost somewhere between 14 and 25 million to make, which is nothing compared to the average blockbuster. Avengers Endgame, for example, cost over 300 million. I have a lot of appreciation for that sort of thing.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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I'm pretty sure Denis Villeneuve has said on the record that he plans on adapting Dune Messiah if the movies are successful, which is a great bookend to Paul Atreides story.

Not sure I'd call it the bookend, unless you consider the preacher from Children to have been something that was just knocked off the shelf...

I mean from an audience perspective, seeing the jihad and the repercussions of it then how indifferent Paul is to it all; he rightfully comes across as a fascist dictator, I mean he killed over 60 billion people after all. You don't do that unless you're a truly evil person.

Been several decades since I read Messiah but it ends with Paul walking into the desert abdicating his cause in the destruction he wrought.

Yeah he sticks around for another book (or two? been a while), but the story clearly delineates after the second book IMO.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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I just came back from seeing 'Dune: Part two". I feel very disappointed. In a sense, Denis Villeneuve, is like Paul. It looks like that when Villeneuve smelled success, he could not withstand the pressure and instead staying true to the book made it into an action film, of which we already have so many, and which is full of plot-holes like we are used to these kind of films. I will not even start comparing the script…

Alia walking around would have been goofy.
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