You could rob a bank. Other than that, I'm not sure I know of a surefire way to make money without doing anything, except for the "work like hell for a few years" thing.
Wow, I really got downmodded for saying you have to work to make money?
I don't want to work very hard
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Re: I don't want to work very hard
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can ask this question, but I doubt you will get a truthful answer, sorry to say. In multiple instances, I had been excited b/c the interview had challenging technical questions, only to be disappointed when I actually get into the work. Remember: the relationship is you work for your employer, your employer pays you. Don't expect any more or less than that.
Sometimes, I actually ask to see the task tracker and ask which kinds of things I'd get to work on. That at least lets you know if there is interesting work that management has requested.
I always ask "if I started this position today, what tasks would you assign me?" It's a really informative question.
Re: I don't want to work very hard
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sometimes, I actually ask to see the task tracker and ask which kinds of things I'd get to work on. That at least lets you know if there is interesting work that management has requested.
I always ask "if I started this position today, what tasks would you assign me?" It's a really informative question.
You'd better ask "It I started this position two months ago, what kind of things I'd be working on by now?" It takes a little to accustom yourself to each work environment, and a little longer to get into the flow of the place (know your collegues, the work process etc.). That said, yours is a darn good question, and on my next interview I'll be certain to ask it.
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To make 20k/year safely for the next 60 years you need around 1/2 a million invested well which you skim off 4% and use the rest to keep up with inflation. (70% stocks 25% bonds, 5% cash or cash equivalents.) Saving 1/2 a million is hard but if your willing to live off of 20k/year then ~7+ years at 120k and you can reach that (tax is your major problem). Max out your 401k etc and dump the rest directly into savings.…
"70% stocks" That might be the traditional wisdom from the last 20 years or so, but it might not be so wise now or for the next (possibly long) while.
There is a slim possibility that buying stocks today is a bad idea, but the "magic" of cost dollar averaging means you don't need to chose when to invest. And the advantage to having 30% in something other than stocks is so you can buy them when the market tanks. If you live to be 90 and start investing at 20 you have 70 years to ride out the swings in the market.
Edit: Ok, post retirement swings can be frightening but diversification and the 30% that's not in stocks should give you 8+ years to ride out most bumps. Anyway, once your nest egg is significantly larger than your draw down it stops being important.
Re: I don't want to work very hard
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
Job markets are not as efficient as real markets where you buy and sell things because jobs are not liquid. If I find a job paying $50/hour and someone else is working doing the same job earning $30/hour, I can't exactly make any profit arbitraging the market to efficiency. For a pretty small investment in time and money, most grocery store cashiers could learn to become plumbers. Plumbing routinely pays 4x a grocery…
Why can't you arbitrage people? That's effectively what consulting firms do.
Recruiters also.
Re: I don't want to work very hard
#156I agree and disagree. People here will crucify you for what your saying but it sounds like your exactly like me. I'm not even out of school yet and I've been working part time developer during the year and full time during summer/breaks(pay the bills). Anyways I'm already starting to feel bored and distracted. May I suggest going to school? Getting a phd and then become a professor and sit around most days grading pa…
Grading is the worst job I can think of. It alone steers me away from most teaching positions.
(shudder) I have to grade finals tomorrow. egh.
Re: I don't want to work very hard
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "No man on his deathbed ever said, 'I wish I had spent more time at the office.'" - The late Massachusetts Senator Paul Tsongas, speaking at another Harvard Commencement No, but I bet a lot of men have said, at least to themselves if not out loud, "I wish I'd had sex with a lot more gorgeous women." cf. Little Miss Sunshine. Spending more time at the office is a fairly reliable way of upping your odds when you're n…
Spending more time at the office is a fairly reliable way of upping your odds when you're not at the office. American cultural assumption? Because I don't want women to be attracted to my money. Better ways to get women: learn to perform music, take up physical exercise, practice your confidence game.
If the goal is quantity of gorgeous women, and only to the point of sleeping with them, then who cares why they like you? :-)
Re: I don't want to work very hard
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
To make 20k/year safely for the next 60 years you need around 1/2 a million invested well which you skim off 4% and use the rest to keep up with inflation. (70% stocks 25% bonds, 5% cash or cash equivalents.) Saving 1/2 a million is hard but if your willing to live off of 20k/year then ~7+ years at 120k and you can reach that (tax is your major problem). Max out your 401k etc and dump the rest directly into savings.…
The problem is, to make $120k you typically have to move someplace where rent alone may exceed 20k/year.
That's where roommates / flatmates can really help. Using craigslist you can often find 600 - 700$ a month rooms in areas where a nice one bedroom apartment would cost you 1500+ / month. Now days cervices like Pepod and zipcar can make not owning a car easy to deal with in reasonably urban areas. So a 400$ a month apartment in dumb fuck + a car might be more costly than dealing with a roommate in a "higher cost of living area".
Re: I don't want to work very hard
#159I agree and disagree. People here will crucify you for what your saying but it sounds like your exactly like me. I'm not even out of school yet and I've been working part time developer during the year and full time during summer/breaks(pay the bills). Anyways I'm already starting to feel bored and distracted. May I suggest going to school? Getting a phd and then become a professor and sit around most days grading pa…
Grading is the worst job I can think of. It alone steers me away from most teaching positions. (shudder) I have to grade finals tomorrow. egh.
It's not so bad in CS, a lot of the courses I took (and the one I TA'd) used automated grading systems.
My autograder was a CGI-perl script. Dead easy.
Re: I don't want to work very hard
#160Find another career. Hack at home for fun.