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Dell exec reveals Nvidia has a 1,000-watt GPU in the works

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Re: Dell exec reveals Nvidia has a 1,000-watt GPU in the works

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Post by amelius »

epolanski wrote: post #18
amelius wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah so they should increase the efficiency instead of the power.

Well, there's no yeah, because there's no ratio... For all you could know energy went twofold and performance threefold..

They said nothing about performance, and if you think it increased without them saying anything about it, then you're being highly optimistic.

Right now I can only assume they made it easier to burn more energy.

Re: Dell exec reveals Nvidia has a 1,000-watt GPU in the works

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Post by _8j50 »

yau8edq12i wrote: post #5

Nice, we'll be able to consume the Earth's resources even faster. Congrats everyone!

I must disagree. Do you oppose renewable energy? If not then by definition, it is possible to use more energy and not deplete any natural resources. The consumer blaming technique is one fossil fuel companies like to spread and I believe you are inadvertently spreading.

I was just reading an HN post about AWS getting rights to a nuclear powerplant. FAANG companies are getting more and more carbon neutral datacenters. The increasing energy needs of humans can be met with renewable energy. But saying it's people's fault for not conserving energy is giving power companies an excuse to continue using fossil fuels.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

yau8edq12i wrote: post #5

Nice, we'll be able to consume the Earth's resources even faster. Congrats everyone!

Consuming resources is a necessary part of living. Question is, what do we get out of consumed resources. And at this point, it's logical and clear, the only way to go from here is out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab_mH8R0KTM

Re: Dell exec reveals Nvidia has a 1,000-watt GPU in the works

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Post by refurb »

eru wrote: post #6
yau8edq12i wrote: post #5

Nice, we'll be able to consume the Earth's resources even faster. Congrats everyone!

Huh? This is an AI accelerator card. So you should be looking at performance per Watt, instead of absolute numbers. The linked article doesn't mention anything about that.

The best way to enjoy HN is to just ignore these comments. There are a lot of bored, angsty, frustrated, lonely people, many struggling with mental illness that like to make comments like this for no other reason than getting attention.

Re: Dell exec reveals Nvidia has a 1,000-watt GPU in the works

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Post by nicolaslem »

Voultapher wrote: post #20
eru wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? This is an AI accelerator card. So you should be looking at performance per Watt, instead of absolute numbers. The linked article doesn't mention anything about that.

As long as we insist on doing the same thing, we will never use less in total. Point me to any sizable consumption field where gains in efficiency didn't translate to more usage.

Lighting using using LEDs vs incandescent bulbs: streets and buildings are not ten times brighter than a couple of decades ago.

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Post by phh »

_8j50 wrote: post #22
yau8edq12i wrote: post #5

Nice, we'll be able to consume the Earth's resources even faster. Congrats everyone!

I must disagree. Do you oppose renewable energy? If not then by definition, it is possible to use more energy and not deplete any natural resources. The consumer blaming technique is one fossil fuel companies like to spread and I believe you are inadvertently spreading. I was just reading an HN post about AWS getting rights to a nuclear powerplant. FAANG companies are getting more and more carbon neutral datacenters.…

Renewable energy does deplete a lot of natural resources. Even assuming it is carbon neutral (it isn't). Even assuming we're still capable of constructing those without fossil energy (we currently can't). Even assuming mining of various minerals is done without fossil energy (it isn't). Even assuming it doesn't require any mining (it does). It still largely requires "natural surfaces" where we have to disrupt local environments. It might be net benefits (offshore wind farms seem to improve diversity), but we have no renewable energy growth that doesn't require first for the natural resources to take a toll.

Don't get me wrong, I do think this is where we're heading towards, and I feel it's okay. But let's not be blind that yes even assuming we go towards fully renewable energy (still a big if, or rather very long when), any growth of energy consumption comes with a cost to natural resources.

Re: Dell exec reveals Nvidia has a 1,000-watt GPU in the works

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Post by Aardwolf »

hresvelgr wrote: post #24

With the recent breakthrough in ternary weight models it'll be interesting to see how needed this kind of bruteforce power will be.

Why not have both software and hardware improvements? This is like saying we shouldn't have any new CPUs after the the PDP-1 because quicksort got invented
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