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Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Plume is actually based on my open source note-taking app Notes[1]. You can already get it on Flathub, Snap Store etc. Notes uses just a simple plain text editor while Plume has a completely revamped block editor that I built from scratch. That parts of Notes used in Plume will remain open source (per the MPL license) but the rest of the code will be closed source. At least for the time being. [1] https://github.com/…

I don't mind using a closed source solution - but only if I can keep my notes separated from the application itself. Makes it easy for me to back up my notes and to use versioning tools like git. It also allows me to use bash to manipulate my notes independently of the application at any given time. Plume seems very pretty - good job on that, but.... "All notes in Plume are simple plaintext strings under the hood. Ri…

Gotcha, no worries, I'm 100% going to migrate the database to a simple arbitrary folder with .md/.txt files. I also want that for myself. It will take a few months of work after the initial release, tho.

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Where do you expect embedded media to be stored? For example, if I have the following note: ~/my_notes/art/renaissance.txt do you expect images in that note to be stored in ~/my_notes/art or in ~/my_notes/media, or something else?

I don't use Joplin for the aforementioned reasons earlier, but they should at least let you customize the "media folder". The embedded media is already referenced using relatively standard markdown syntax in a respective MD note, e.g.: ![image info](./pictures/image.png) Since apps such as Logseq and Obsidian work with your existing notes, they avoid this issue of massive file duplication and don't need to move the f…

Thanks for all the info!

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plume is actually based on my open source note-taking app Notes[1]. You can already get it on Flathub, Snap Store etc. Notes uses just a simple plain text editor while Plume has a completely revamped block editor that I built from scratch. That parts of Notes used in Plume will remain open source (per the MPL license) but the rest of the code will be closed source. At least for the time being. [1] https://github.com/…

I don't mind using a closed source solution - but only if I can keep my notes separated from the application itself. Makes it easy for me to back up my notes and to use versioning tools like git. It also allows me to use bash to manipulate my notes independently of the application at any given time. Plume seems very pretty - good job on that, but.... "All notes in Plume are simple plaintext strings under the hood. Ri…

A SQLite database is not really proprietary though. It's easy to work with. And perhaps there is an export function too in case you want to move.

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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I'm an Evernote refugee struggling with Joplin and Obsidian this morning. I've got thousands of PDF notes going back decades, and the ability to search on their OCR has kept me on Evernote for years. But the latest Joplin includes OCR out of the box, and Obsidian has the Omnisearch/Text Extractor plugins to add it. Both of those use Tesseract to do OCR locally. I've got it working on Joplin fairly well. But it hardly…

Evernote works well now. It has improved.

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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I went from Notion to Joplin for note taking: I drop 1000s of images in a note and annotate them and publish them. Notion crashed all the time; so badly that support apologised and had to delete things for me. Joplin has 0 issues with it; it scrolls super fast, is a pleasure to work with. Also on a m1. I cannot say I noticed any bad behaviour compared to others, included Obsidian.

I went from Notion and Joplin to Obsidian mostly because Obsidian stores stuff as regular files on my filesystem and I can easily interact with them with external programs and scripts. Joplin, while being open source itself, has a "proprietary"[1] storage format I can't be arsed to figure out how to interact with. [1] Meaning non-standard in this case, Joplin is the only software using Joplin's storage method

It’s SQLite; arguable the format most fast custom storage format requiring software (games notably) should use instead of rolling their own.

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Joplin is a decent open-source note app but I absolutely hate the way that they structure your notes. If you have thousands of notes in a folder ~/my_notes ~/my_notes/work ~/my_notes/music etc. Joplin takes them and stores the notes internally as a SQLite table with UUID named markdown files. It makes it very difficult to use bash tools, finding them, other IDEs, etc to work with your files after Joplin has ingested…

You can try TagSpaces as well, it works also directly with your file system and do not use a database.

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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post #83

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I went from Notion and Joplin to Obsidian mostly because Obsidian stores stuff as regular files on my filesystem and I can easily interact with them with external programs and scripts. Joplin, while being open source itself, has a "proprietary"[1] storage format I can't be arsed to figure out how to interact with. [1] Meaning non-standard in this case, Joplin is the only software using Joplin's storage method

It's "just" a SQLite database, I wrote a small Python script to extract my Joplin notes to a static site: https://gitlab.com/stavros/notes/

On the other hand Obsidian markdown with front-matter can be fed pretty much directly to a static site generator.

Sqlite does give some speed improvements and makes searching easier.

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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My problem with Joplin is that on my M1 Macbook pro it really shows how much of an Electron app it really is, in the worst ways. Extreme memory use and UI lag for an application which displays text. That said, aside from performance it's quite satisfying to use. It's very simple and does its job well. I recently migrated to Obsidian and although the learning curve is steeper, I'm quite happy with the results.

That’s exactly why I’m building a note-taking app in Qt C++ and QML that is vastly more performant than other note-taking apps[1]. This degradation of software by web apps shows in the lack of optimal resource utilization of even one of the most powerful chips of recent times. [1] https://www.get-plume.com/

Scrolling in the webpage crashed my browser (Firefox, ios).

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

#100
post #5

I use Microsoft's OneDrive free account to keep Joplin synced between devices. Works like a charm. Currently using 0.7GB out of 5GB.

Same here! And you can encrypt the sync so you know Microsoft cannot get access to your personal information.

And how would you decrypt on mobile while allowing to edit the files?

Cryptomator works well as long as your on a desktop platform, but when you move to a smartphone they provide only their crippled file-manager which is not accessible form third party apps.

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