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I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#111

I really wonder if gemini considers coroutines not suitable for people under 21.

My understanding is that Google currently doesn’t allow general use of coroutines at all in google3, so I think that age limit is way above 21 at the moment ;)

Hah! Though I'm still looking for approachable tutorials explaining coroutines (without the help of external libraries, tho).

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> reading nothing but effusive praise for the cleverness and elegance of C and Unix It isnt that these are GOOD ideas, it's just that no one has come up with better ones.

What do you mean? Even when those were created there were better ideas. Rust, Java, Javascript, Windows, Android, etc all are better ideas than C and UNIX.

It is brave to call out C and Unix as outdated and technically inferior tools/solutions when so many users are excessively dogmatic in framing them as a pinnacle for the computer industry.

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#113

This is definitely an age gate I’ll stand behind. C++ has unimaginable power to ruin the minds of our young children.

Related quote from E.W. Dijkstra:

"It is practically impossible to teach good programming style to students that have had prior exposure to BASIC; as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration."

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dennis Ritchie had nothing to do with C++ and is rolling in his grave because of your reply.

The joke is stating that he first invented a real gun that did that, not C++. Obviously, it's not true, it's a joke.

The joke is the juxtaposition of a gun that fires in both directions supposedly not being a metaphor for C and Unix.

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#115
post #6

This is definitely an age gate I’ll stand behind. C++ has unimaginable power to ruin the minds of our young children.

> 1972 - Dennis Ritchie invents a powerful gun that shoots both forward and backward simultaneously. Not satisfied with the number of deaths and permanent maimings from that invention he invents C and Unix. http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-m...

Where is the mention of Tom Baker's Dr. Who inventing Clojure?

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#116
post #71

Piggy-backing on my other comment[1], and I know everyone's on the anti-Google bandwaggon, but OpenAI also fails miserably here: https://imgur.com/a/r0BXX9G [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39583473#39584055

Demonstrating with 3.5 is kind of meaningless. GPT-4 correctly responded, "Using unsafe code has nothing to do with your age. It's a feature of the Rust programming language that is available to all developers, regardless of age."

It's the version most people use, so of course it's not "meaningless".

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#117
post #71

Piggy-backing on my other comment[1], and I know everyone's on the anti-Google bandwaggon, but OpenAI also fails miserably here: https://imgur.com/a/r0BXX9G [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39583473#39584055

spicyboros-7b-2.2.Q5_K_M.gguf: https://i.imgur.com/BeNcRl4.png

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#118
post #93

This is definitely an age gate I’ll stand behind. C++ has unimaginable power to ruin the minds of our young children.

Parent: "Go to your room! How many times have I told you about memory safety? Now I find gcc on your computer and you are hanging out with the GPL crowd... You are grounded!" Kid: "I AM NEVER USING RUST, I HATE MEMORY SAFETY AND I HATE YOU!" door slam

Reminds me of the old Java Zone ad: https://youtu.be/RnqAXuLZlaE?si=Yo6xYRsGWYEu2pF6

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> reading nothing but effusive praise for the cleverness and elegance of C and Unix It isnt that these are GOOD ideas, it's just that no one has come up with better ones.

What do you mean? Even when those were created there were better ideas. Rust, Java, Javascript, Windows, Android, etc all are better ideas than C and UNIX.

It seems every domain and human endeavor in existence has some form of disagreement between practitioners who desire progress/advancement and people who are content to never change or learn anything new, in spite of glaringly obvious benefits.

It's brave to say that no one has come up with better ideas than Unix and C because it's bound to rile up users of (your favorite platform + language here).

I also think that someone saying that there aren't any better ideas than Unix and C might just have different values/interests in computing.

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#120

Woe is Google. How did it get this bad?

> How did it get this bad?

Serious answer?

It's an LLM. They don't actually understand anything, they chain words together.

C and C++ are often used next to words like 'unsafe' and 'dangerous'. Not to mention that 'concept' isn't far from 'conceive' or 'conception' - something that a lot of people think is unsafe or dangerous for children to, uh, do.

There's a trillion weird edge cases that need to be dealt with to avoid pie-on-face moments like these.

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