I've found nothing better than zim-wiki. The only issue is no mobile client. For brainstorming I like treesheets though.
Joplin is an open source note-taking app
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Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app
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Ah too bad, I do need a rich text notes app (and no markdown, I hate markdown, under the hood it's fine but I don't want to deal with it :) ). Also hate kanban and agile methodology by the way ;) Luckily I'm not a dev otherwise I would have to work with all of those lol. But perhaps you could do the monetisation via the sync service only and make the app open source :) That would be great, at least for me so I could…
Is it a deal breaker for you that the app isn't open source? What if I create binaries for FreeBSD/your distro and there's no telemetry/option to disable connecting to the internet (even for updates)?
That would work perfectly yes! It's not the internet connection that bothers me (in fact I'd probably use the sync).
But usually developers don't care enough about the tiny userbase of FreeBSD to even consider that. If you would do that, I would really like it, though I can imagine that from a time/gains perspective there is no point. Which I do totally understand.
One thing I like is that your monthly fee is very reasonable. Obsidian costs double the price of my entire Microsoft 365 subscription :) Besides it being electron that's another issue for me. Especially because it's just not really that great.
Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app
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Nice that's exactly what I'm looking for, as I use KDE and Qt apps fit in so well. Will the client side be open source? I hope so because I'm on FreeBSD so you probably won't make a compiled version :)
There's Qownnote too, it's really nice and open source.
Oh yeah good point. I never checked that one out because I don't really use owncloud but it's worth a look.
Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app
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Is it a deal breaker for you that the app isn't open source? What if I create binaries for FreeBSD/your distro and there's no telemetry/option to disable connecting to the internet (even for updates)?
I support your app so much I would pay a monthly fee instead of a one-time purchase. My notes are as valuable as my life. I don't mind the app being proprietary if it gets the love it deserves. If you can accomplish the goals you set out, like providing good functionality and performance, then I'm cheering you on. My needs are very basic, just the minimum to accomplish Zettelkasten.
That's nice to hear. Same here, I have thousands of notes, it's my second brain. Sign up for the waitlist, I'd love you to try Plume when it's out.
Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app
#75Joplin works well for what it does and is good enough for regular note-taking. Has most features like live view, webclipper, sync & plugins for that extra missing functionality. What you don't get is a "polished" UI with a WYSIWYG editor. The storage format is markdown, but it has its own way of organizing files[1]. If your notetaking process includes multiple editors(other than joplin apps) then joplin may not be th…
Joplin has a WYSIWYG editor mode. https://joplinapp.org/help/apps/rich_text_editor Joplin also can use external editors. https://joplinapp.org/help/apps/external_text_editor
Sure there's the rich text editor but it has limitations and you lose the functionality of some plugins. The rich text editor mode had bugs the last time I tried it.
By external editor I mean editing the markdown files directly without opening joplin app first. There can be many reasons to do that like editing in a terminal or auto generate/manipulate notes using a tool. We can still do it of required but we need to be careful not to touch the Joplin metadata.
PS: I use Joplin regularly. These are not complaints about Joplin, but just an fyi to help someone make an informed decision before they switch.
Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app
#76My problem with Joplin is that on my M1 Macbook pro it really shows how much of an Electron app it really is, in the worst ways. Extreme memory use and UI lag for an application which displays text. That said, aside from performance it's quite satisfying to use. It's very simple and does its job well. I recently migrated to Obsidian and although the learning curve is steeper, I'm quite happy with the results.
Joplin released an ARM build a few months back -- so if you were using the pre-arm build it was bad, so just throwing this out there for folks who maybe had similar experiences -- make sure you are using the arm build (it should happen automatically now)
Disclaimer: I've contributed to Joplin in the past, and I use it dozens of times a day with no big speed complaints.
Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it a deal breaker for you that the app isn't open source? What if I create binaries for FreeBSD/your distro and there's no telemetry/option to disable connecting to the internet (even for updates)?
That would work perfectly yes! It's not the internet connection that bothers me (in fact I'd probably use the sync). But usually developers don't care enough about the tiny userbase of FreeBSD to even consider that. If you would do that, I would really like it, though I can imagine that from a time/gains perspective there is no point. Which I do totally understand. One thing I like is that your monthly fee is very re…
That's awesome to hear, then. I'll see what I can do (:
Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app
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That’s exactly why I’m building a note-taking app in Qt C++ and QML that is vastly more performant than other note-taking apps[1]. This degradation of software by web apps shows in the lack of optimal resource utilization of even one of the most powerful chips of recent times. [1] https://www.get-plume.com/
Plume looks very interesting! One place I personally find many apps in this category fall down is their ability to handle pdf’s embedded or attached within notes gracefully. This applies to desktop and mobile apps. This may be a slightly weird use case but I accumulate tons of pdf’s that are often relevant to my notes and want them easily embedded and viewable in a first class way. Obsidian is a great example of how…
I am working on a knowledge structuring tool as well; will silent release soon:
limandoc.com
You can put all your documents/PDFs there and structure them as you wish. And it will be syncing locally only!
Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app
#79Joplin is a decent open-source note app but I absolutely hate the way that they structure your notes. If you have thousands of notes in a folder ~/my_notes ~/my_notes/work ~/my_notes/music etc. Joplin takes them and stores the notes internally as a SQLite table with UUID named markdown files. It makes it very difficult to use bash tools, finding them, other IDEs, etc to work with your files after Joplin has ingested…
Where do you expect embedded media to be stored? For example, if I have the following note: ~/my_notes/art/renaissance.txt do you expect images in that note to be stored in ~/my_notes/art or in ~/my_notes/media, or something else?
Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app
#80Joplin is a decent open-source note app but I absolutely hate the way that they structure your notes. If you have thousands of notes in a folder ~/my_notes ~/my_notes/work ~/my_notes/music etc. Joplin takes them and stores the notes internally as a SQLite table with UUID named markdown files. It makes it very difficult to use bash tools, finding them, other IDEs, etc to work with your files after Joplin has ingested…
Where do you expect embedded media to be stored? For example, if I have the following note: ~/my_notes/art/renaissance.txt do you expect images in that note to be stored in ~/my_notes/art or in ~/my_notes/media, or something else?
In Obsidian, for example, you can choose where your media data is stored (and there are options to store them alongside the Markdown files, e.g. in a hidden folder). I guess OP’s point is that this would be a better way, or at least to store media in the same root folder as notes and not some arbitrary folder far away from the notes.