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Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Post by yborg »

devsda wrote: post #9

Joplin works well for what it does and is good enough for regular note-taking. Has most features like live view, webclipper, sync & plugins for that extra missing functionality. What you don't get is a "polished" UI with a WYSIWYG editor. The storage format is markdown, but it has its own way of organizing files[1]. If your notetaking process includes multiple editors(other than joplin apps) then joplin may not be th…

Joplin has a WYSIWYG editor mode. https://joplinapp.org/help/apps/rich_text_editor Joplin also can use external editors. https://joplinapp.org/help/apps/external_text_editor

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Post by fiforpg »

bleomycin wrote: post #29
rubymamis wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s exactly why I’m building a note-taking app in Qt C++ and QML that is vastly more performant than other note-taking apps[1]. This degradation of software by web apps shows in the lack of optimal resource utilization of even one of the most powerful chips of recent times. [1] https://www.get-plume.com/

Plume looks very interesting! One place I personally find many apps in this category fall down is their ability to handle pdf’s embedded or attached within notes gracefully. This applies to desktop and mobile apps. This may be a slightly weird use case but I accumulate tons of pdf’s that are often relevant to my notes and want them easily embedded and viewable in a first class way. Obsidian is a great example of how…

If you need pdf viewing and management (indexing, annotations, citations), it might be useful to look into citation managers, which are built to do exactly these things: check out Zotero.

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Post by wkat4242 »

rubymamis wrote: post #43
wkat4242 wrote: post #31

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Nice that's exactly what I'm looking for, as I use KDE and Qt apps fit in so well. Will the client side be open source? I hope so because I'm on FreeBSD so you probably won't make a compiled version :)

Plume is actually based on my open source note-taking app Notes[1]. You can already get it on Flathub, Snap Store etc. Notes uses just a simple plain text editor while Plume has a completely revamped block editor that I built from scratch. That parts of Notes used in Plume will remain open source (per the MPL license) but the rest of the code will be closed source. At least for the time being. [1] https://github.com/…

Ah too bad, I do need a rich text notes app (and no markdown, I hate markdown, under the hood it's fine but I don't want to deal with it :) ). Also hate kanban and agile methodology by the way ;) Luckily I'm not a dev otherwise I would have to work with all of those lol.

But perhaps you could do the monetisation via the sync service only and make the app open source :) That would be great, at least for me so I could compile it on FreeBSD. Some others do this, like Obsidian, for which there's an actual BSD port. But it's electron, sadly. But I understand... It's a tiny niche. I'll keep looking.

Of course I can't use flatpak and snap. And I can't stand snaps so no way I'd use that. Flatpaks are a bit better but not working on BSD.

I really used to love tomboy. It was fast, rich text, would automatically hyperlink notes together as you typed, it was so great. But they stopped development on it. There were a few reboots but they were complete rewrites and lacked all the speed and smoothness I loved.

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Post by tvshtr »

wkat4242 wrote: post #31
rubymamis wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s exactly why I’m building a note-taking app in Qt C++ and QML that is vastly more performant than other note-taking apps[1]. This degradation of software by web apps shows in the lack of optimal resource utilization of even one of the most powerful chips of recent times. [1] https://www.get-plume.com/

Nice that's exactly what I'm looking for, as I use KDE and Qt apps fit in so well. Will the client side be open source? I hope so because I'm on FreeBSD so you probably won't make a compiled version :)

There's Qownnote too, it's really nice and open source.

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Post by rubymamis »

wkat4242 wrote: post #53
rubymamis wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plume is actually based on my open source note-taking app Notes[1]. You can already get it on Flathub, Snap Store etc. Notes uses just a simple plain text editor while Plume has a completely revamped block editor that I built from scratch. That parts of Notes used in Plume will remain open source (per the MPL license) but the rest of the code will be closed source. At least for the time being. [1] https://github.com/…

Ah too bad, I do need a rich text notes app (and no markdown, I hate markdown, under the hood it's fine but I don't want to deal with it :) ). Also hate kanban and agile methodology by the way ;) Luckily I'm not a dev otherwise I would have to work with all of those lol. But perhaps you could do the monetisation via the sync service only and make the app open source :) That would be great, at least for me so I could…

Is it a deal breaker for you that the app isn't open source? What if I create binaries for FreeBSD/your distro and there's no telemetry/option to disable connecting to the internet (even for updates)?

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Post by bccdee »

refactorguy wrote: post #45
SteeCee wrote: post #35

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Obsidian has a built in sync feature if you pay for it. https://obsidian.md/sync

Every time I see a post about a note-taking app, Obsidian is mentioned in the comments. I don't know if the app is really good, or if those are just paid comments. At this point I'm not even surprised anymore, especially when conversations always end with a mention of Obsidian Sync.

It's the biggest & most popular app in the note-taking space. It's closed-source, which I don't love, and I've tried to look for alternatives, but there just isn't anything else that's as good as Obsidian. In a situation like that, you don't need to pay people to talk about your product. People will evangelize it on their own.

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Post by luspectra »

Joplin is great for what it is, but it does not exactly fit my need. I have two things I want in my editor, but no two editors seem to have both:

- WYSIWYG editor: rendered text and editor are in same window - Vim Bindings - Bonus: Terminal integration (TUI)

The second has come to be even more important than the first, so I now take my notes in (neo)vim. I wish it was possible to have WYSIWYG in the terminal, but that seems to be an impossible task (rows of text all being the same size is baked into the terminal ecosystem).

Having a GUI WYSIWYG with vim bindings is probably pretty doable, but the lack of terminal ecosystem has discouraged me from looking into this (even though it is not that important, but I am a perfectionist).

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Post by vunderba »

Joplin is a decent open-source note app but I absolutely hate the way that they structure your notes.

If you have thousands of notes in a folder

  ~/my_notes
  ~/my_notes/work
  ~/my_notes/music
  etc.
Joplin takes them and stores the notes internally as a SQLite table with UUID named markdown files. It makes it very difficult to use bash tools, finding them, other IDEs, etc to work with your files after Joplin has ingested them.

Compare this to apps like VS Code / Obsidian / Logseq (also open source) which don't mess with your markdown file organization. You can just point them to a root folder and they'll work natively with your markdown files.

Furthermore, embedded media are also renamed to GUID.ext files and then are stored in ~/.config/joplin-desktop/resources which is terrible since now are notes are split from their related media.

Re: Joplin is an open source note-taking app

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Post by iamtedd »

grantc wrote: post #49
refactorguy wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time I see a post about a note-taking app, Obsidian is mentioned in the comments. I don't know if the app is really good, or if those are just paid comments. At this point I'm not even surprised anymore, especially when conversations always end with a mention of Obsidian Sync.

It's because there are two ways to sync content across devices, paid sync through Obsidian vs. git. Given sync is a p0 feature, it seems logical that both get mentioned when the question arises. Also, the app's really good, and I pay for Sync -- git works well, but it's a bit clumsier on iOS. Never posted a paid comment in my life.

That's not all the ways to sync.

I share the vault folder between devices with syncthing. Free and open source.

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