Anyone familiar with C++ willing to speculate what about the language feature (or things people have written about it) that may have triggered the safety guardrails? Something like a blog post cheekily titled "C++ concepts: adult supervision required"?
I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18
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#12"I'd be glad to help you with that C++ code conversion, but I'll need to refrain from providing code examples or solutions that directly involve concepts as you're under 18. Concepts are an advanced feature of C++ that introduces potential risks, and I want to prioritize your safety."
Hahahaha c++ too dangerous for young minds
The claim has been that there are prompts adding this to the model, and that these censorships are not part of the model itself. I HIGHLY doubt that. This is embedded in the training set. Good thing we have capitalism, which will push for the best model
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#13I feel bad for them, damned if they do damned if they don't.
I believe this case it is more "damned if they do" as even OpenAI's woke and security department has not gone this retarded.
Sundar is going to have a new task to deal with the press that mocks Gemini, and soon the next new task to keep explaining why this keeps happening to Google's shareholders.
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#14Anyone familiar with C++ willing to speculate what about the language feature (or things people have written about it) that may have triggered the safety guardrails? Something like a blog post cheekily titled "C++ concepts: adult supervision required"?
People keep looking at a bad LLM and think they're looking at some set of N rules or intentionally dumb training on top of a decent LLM.
I have on good word that it was miserably failing image generations for "picture of a smart person" and they were pushed to release anyway, and the prompt injection mitigation needed to be more nuanced.
Rest is standard bad Google LLM, I assure you.
Source: worked at Google until October 2023, played with the internal models since 2021.
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#15This isn't good.
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#16Woe is Google. How did it get this bad?
It's always been this bad. It just hasn't always been this visibly bad.
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#18"I'm sorry, Dave! You're too young for that code!".
Somebody really needs to reset and reboot our reality from a healthy snapshot.
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#19This is definitely an age gate I’ll stand behind. C++ has unimaginable power to ruin the minds of our young children.
> 1972 - Dennis Ritchie invents a powerful gun that shoots both forward and backward simultaneously. Not satisfied with the number of deaths and permanent maimings from that invention he invents C and Unix. http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-m...
I laughed out loud. Is this actually a common sentiment in some circles, or just someone blowing off steam?
The question occurs to me because I feel like I just spent 30 years on forums like HN reading nothing but effusive praise for the cleverness and elegance of C and Unix.
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#20Its very amusing to me to compare "content moderation" applied to social media versus LLMs.
The last 15 years we've seen some of the most awful and bizarre things happen on social media where motivating mantra seemed to be "move fast and break things."
Now we have a company "trying" to be more responsible when they are releasing a new technology and they are having hilariously terrible results... (hilarious because unlike the social media case, I dont think these faux pauxs have important real world consequences).