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Laurie Anderson on making an AI chatbot of Lou Reed

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Re: Laurie Anderson on making an AI chatbot of Lou Reed

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I went through a similar thing deepfaking my dead cat. It was nice to have a steady flow of desktop images generated by a cronjob of her doing cat things, as if she's still physically somewhere.

Also it made me feel like I was a deranged character in a Black Mirror episode, like Reed's wife in the article...

Re: Laurie Anderson on making an AI chatbot of Lou Reed

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I thought for a second that the virtual Lou Reed was hooked on heroin.....lol

Could you even have a persuasive simulated Lou Reed without his struggles with substance abuse being in there somewhere?

That might sound facetious, but I'm serious. It might not be explicitly stated, but IMO it'd have to be at least tacitly present.

If you took out the drug/alcohol abuse, the result would be a simulation of a different person, not Lou Reed as we know him (same with, say, Keith Richards, or any number of others one could name).

Re: Laurie Anderson on making an AI chatbot of Lou Reed

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Not quite sure what you're "clearing up" there. For me, having owned every Velvet Underground release on vinyl and lost friends to the needle I'm comfortable on the subject of addiction, metaphorically or literally. Laurie Anderson is quite poetic and intelligent enough to appreciate the face of reification and commodification wrought by techno-consumerism, whether it's selling records or AI apps.

Perhaps then you can clear up what this: > Wherever I see self-loathing and nihilism passed off as an art-form, refers to, and how this: > Because nothing sells quite like the spectacle of self-immolation ties into the content linked. As it stands it appears as though you've just riffed off the word addiction in the title, which naturally leads to pointing out why it was used. That covered, it's like what my painter…

I think he means he's loathing and immolating himself, and we're supposed to appreciate his artistic nihilism.

Re: Laurie Anderson on making an AI chatbot of Lou Reed

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This is probably a nice thing todo a decade after the person has died but I wonder what it will do to how a person grieves if available immediately after they die? My view - it probably won't be helpful.

Refer to Black Mirror's "Be Right Back".

Re: Laurie Anderson on making an AI chatbot of Lou Reed

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Not petrochemical. That's only in “O Superman”. Chatbots don't launch missiles – yet.

I don't think petrochemicals necessarily mean missiles? They're chemicals derived from petroleum, I was thinking more plastics and I assume dozens of other things I know nothing about.

I think one of the verses is states the desire to be held in electronic arms. While conversing with their mom through an answering machine.

She is living the life she imagined.

Re: Laurie Anderson on making an AI chatbot of Lou Reed

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I thought for a second that the virtual Lou Reed was hooked on heroin.....lol

For good reason. The colon directs your attention, typically to a list or quote.

“…chatbot of Lou Reed: 100%, sadly addicted”

I read this as directing our attention to the punchline of a bad joke or deeply strange project manifesting a deceased person in a chatbot which generated text somehow emblematic of addiction.

Re: Laurie Anderson on making an AI chatbot of Lou Reed

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Perhaps then you can clear up what this: > Wherever I see self-loathing and nihilism passed off as an art-form, refers to, and how this: > Because nothing sells quite like the spectacle of self-immolation ties into the content linked. As it stands it appears as though you've just riffed off the word addiction in the title, which naturally leads to pointing out why it was used. That covered, it's like what my painter…

Guess I'm talking about an "industry" that when they're "done" sticks a fork in the young lives it burns through for its banquet. FWIW I don't think Lou Reed ever set out to glamorise addiction. He lost a lot of good people along the way too. He wrote the reality he saw. Maybe making it to 71... there's a bit of survivor's bias. But when someone talks about "addiction", however folksy and cute their art project, they…

Heroin is one of his best songs. What the hell are you talking about already?!?
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