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Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

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Your answer is predicated on the ability to get into said career. Do many jobs list "humility" as a qualification they are looking for? [Edit] As a primary qualification, and not a company value or whatever.

The good workplaces do. Low ego, high skill is a common refrain.

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Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

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Random personal opinion: get a masters degree, researching computer vision or NLP, or something that hedges you against AI. Or if you are inclined, do a PhD. Also you sounds like you are a bit burned out. Translating sounds even much more AI-replacable than CS -- don't do that if you fear CS. (Also Blind is toxic albeit informational! Call up some people. Ask me; or ask HN or some less negative places for how the ind…

This is a huge bet and it's going to further increase their student debt. If it doesn't pay off, they'll be much worse off than just moving back home with their parents and trying to say, start a business or freelance.

Better option: learn it on your own. Pick up a side project, take a course, make mistakes and within a year you’ll have enough skills to be dangerous

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your answer is predicated on the ability to get into said career. Do many jobs list "humility" as a qualification they are looking for? [Edit] As a primary qualification, and not a company value or whatever.

The good workplaces do. Low ego, high skill is a common refrain.

In my experience, the workplaces that talk about "humility" are actually the worse environments. It basically translates to "know your place, peasant". Be highly skilled, but never question what you're asked to do, always show reverence for those above you in the hierarchy, etc.

I don't want "humble" coworkers, I want confident coworkers, who also happen to be reasonable and cooperative. I especially want them to be able to confidently state their opinions, without fear that they'll be targeted for "not being humble", even if they're willing to change those opinions based on a discussion with the team.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#35
One option would be to land a steady, secure and simple job like a refuse worker.

I know it might sound ridiculous for someone graduating with a CS degree but it could work to your benefit -- especially if you're feeling burnt out and unsure about your field/focus. A friend of mine drives a garbage truck in a small town and works 3-4 hours per day: as long as it takes to do the route and empty the truck. He's got great health insurance, a 401K and a union. While I make more running a software consultancy, I have none of these benefits and am way more exposed to market fluctuation (like right now). You could spend your afternoons doing research, working on FLOSS, doing freelance dev gigs, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#36

You need to do some soul searching (or, I like punk rock, "you've got soul doubt", to quote Fat Mike)... Are you just nervous because of the news you are reading OR "my interest in webdev is still dead" Have you gone through your college career and you realized you do not like CS? You need to answer this question first. Then you have the answer... if you love CS, the the job will come. Forget what you are reading and…

> "my interest in webdev is still dead" > Have you gone through your college career and you realized you do not like CS?

The Venn diagram of “web development” and “computer science” is two separate circles.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#38

Random personal opinion: get a masters degree, researching computer vision or NLP, or something that hedges you against AI. Or if you are inclined, do a PhD. Also you sounds like you are a bit burned out. Translating sounds even much more AI-replacable than CS -- don't do that if you fear CS. (Also Blind is toxic albeit informational! Call up some people. Ask me; or ask HN or some less negative places for how the ind…

This is a huge bet and it's going to further increase their student debt. If it doesn't pay off, they'll be much worse off than just moving back home with their parents and trying to say, start a business or freelance.

> it's going to further increase their student debt

Never accept a PhD position that you need to pay for (beyond opportunity costs). A PhD position should pay you.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#39

Random personal opinion: get a masters degree, researching computer vision or NLP, or something that hedges you against AI. Or if you are inclined, do a PhD. Also you sounds like you are a bit burned out. Translating sounds even much more AI-replacable than CS -- don't do that if you fear CS. (Also Blind is toxic albeit informational! Call up some people. Ask me; or ask HN or some less negative places for how the ind…

>Also you sounds like you are a bit burned out. Translating sounds even much more AI-replacable than CS -- don't do that if you fear CS.

Sorry, I accidentally removed the last part of that sentence. It was supposed to say this:

    So far, I've thought about translating (I'm bilingual) and technical writing. AI is already quite good at both of those, and Duolingo just replaced most of its translation staff with AI.

Thanks for the reply.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#40

Random personal opinion: get a masters degree, researching computer vision or NLP, or something that hedges you against AI. Or if you are inclined, do a PhD. Also you sounds like you are a bit burned out. Translating sounds even much more AI-replacable than CS -- don't do that if you fear CS. (Also Blind is toxic albeit informational! Call up some people. Ask me; or ask HN or some less negative places for how the ind…

This is a huge bet and it's going to further increase their student debt. If it doesn't pay off, they'll be much worse off than just moving back home with their parents and trying to say, start a business or freelance.

The soundness of the advice depends on the person's specific situation. I've known a person who benefitted from a Master's as the degree gave the person access to certain internships, which helped the person break into a specific field that would've been difficult to enter otherwise.

Another person who earned a Master's found it easier to get a work visa working in a foreign country with a better market for that person's field.

However, each of these people had a specific goal in mind with getting their Master's. The person who asked advice could also find it helpful to only consider a Master's if they also have a specific outcome in mind, served directly by pursuing the degree.

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