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Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

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Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#21
You are sick of the tech industry already?

Well, no offense, but you aren’t in the industry yet. And if you really are sick of it, maybe you should invest in your long term happiness and do literally anything else for a career. Money isn’t worth being miserable.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#22
I finished a programming type school (way before online bootcamps) right at the height of dotcom bubble. Few months later there were no jobs and tech was dead everyone said.

Couple years after bubble and 9/11 landed first job.

Then MS started touting outsourcing to india as the next big thing. Tech was dead everyone said.

Then 2008 great recession. Tech was dead everyone said.

Now AI. Tech is dead everyone says.

From my first job in early 2000's to today I was unemployed for exactly 2 weeks.

Just sayin.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#23
By not being a professional and in the industry yet, your not really in a position to make a judgement about how things are. So your source of information about your fears of outsourcing and AI/LLMs is based on second hand information. If its Blind and reddit, its from other uninformed people, or immigrants who have it particularity hard in the US.

Any job search in any career is going to be a grind. In some twisted way you could even think that tech is better, at least you don't need to dress to impress and tech interviews can be a little more objective.

Re webdev: Your coming out of school, your junior and a blank slate. You don't really have a specialty, you can work towards whatever comes your way.

Honestly, get off the internet,(whats your screen time?), get some hobbies, drop the idea that you really know how the industry is.

The job search sucks, you'll feel a lot better when you get your first check.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#24
post #6

I think the biggest asset for anyone (not you in particular) switching careers will be humility. Go into a new career will an earnest will to learn, go through the initiation, listen to seniors, take feedback and criticism (presented both well and poorly) without your ego going in the way, for at least 3-5 years. Hate to say it, most of the software devs I know are pretty dammed high on their horses and it’s a bit ob…

Your answer is predicated on the ability to get into said career. Do many jobs list "humility" as a qualification they are looking for? [Edit] As a primary qualification, and not a company value or whatever.

The good workplaces do. Low ego, high skill is a common refrain.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#25

Random personal opinion: get a masters degree, researching computer vision or NLP, or something that hedges you against AI. Or if you are inclined, do a PhD. Also you sounds like you are a bit burned out. Translating sounds even much more AI-replacable than CS -- don't do that if you fear CS. (Also Blind is toxic albeit informational! Call up some people. Ask me; or ask HN or some less negative places for how the ind…

This is a huge bet and it's going to further increase their student debt. If it doesn't pay off, they'll be much worse off than just moving back home with their parents and trying to say, start a business or freelance.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#27
post #6

I think the biggest asset for anyone (not you in particular) switching careers will be humility. Go into a new career will an earnest will to learn, go through the initiation, listen to seniors, take feedback and criticism (presented both well and poorly) without your ego going in the way, for at least 3-5 years. Hate to say it, most of the software devs I know are pretty dammed high on their horses and it’s a bit ob…

Your answer is predicated on the ability to get into said career. Do many jobs list "humility" as a qualification they are looking for? [Edit] As a primary qualification, and not a company value or whatever.

that is what the interview is for

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#28
You need to do some soul searching (or, I like punk rock, "you've got soul doubt", to quote Fat Mike)...

Are you just nervous because of the news you are reading

OR

    "my interest in webdev is still dead"
Have you gone through your college career and you realized you do not like CS?

You need to answer this question first. Then you have the answer... if you love CS, the the job will come. Forget what you are reading and pretend this job hunt is another algorithms or operating systems class that you need to bust your ass at and pass.

If on the the other hand the flame is dead, you are getting separated and moving on to another field, well then, there is your other answer. Pretend that is another kind of problem that you have to solve and go solve it. You just went through years of problem solving school, go do it.

-- Full disclosure: not trying to be mean, just trying to boil it down to simplest "if A then B" parts.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#29
You can mostly likely land short term agency contracts right out of school. They don’t have the same benefits or prestige as FTE but it is a real job and many immigrants take them very seriously. If you can handle doing this for a few years you will certainly land an internal FTE eventually. Don’t give up, you have a good thing going.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice on navigating this job market or pivoting out of tech? (US)

#30

Well, translating is the first thing on the AI chopping block. Even if it still viable, doubt it pays as well as entry level software jobs. Election years are always terrible for the job market. Why not pivot into AI development. The market is hot for this. Get any entry level job in it. You are not supposed to make bank, this early in your career. It is all about working for companies that will give you the most ski…

Translating freelancing jobs went down by almost 20% on Upwork since ChatGpT got released, so yeah.. translating isn’t a better option https://bloomberry.com/i-analyzed-5m-freelancing-jobs-to-see...
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