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Launch HN: Danswer (YC W24) – Open-source AI search and chat over private data

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Re: Launch HN: Danswer (YC W24) – Open-source AI search and chat over private data

#131

Won't it be better to transform documents into Q&A style instead of "chunking"?

Are you referring to the approach of creating hypothetical questions for embedding along with the document. Or more along the lines of creating summaries of the documents during indexing and embedding those as well?

Either case, the reason we don't do LLM based transformations during indexing time is that we hope our tool can be used by teams with a lot of documents. It becomes prohibitively expensive to run these transformations at indexing time when the scale can be multiple millions of documents.

Re: Launch HN: Danswer (YC W24) – Open-source AI search and chat over private data

#132

congrats on the launch! curious, what is your business model? you only charge for cloud option right?

My question also. I looked through a lot of the posts here and can’t seem to find it.

There's a question by cpach further up on this page which is essentially asking this but also with some additional questions. Hopefully you find that thread useful!

TLDR: There's the cloud version and also there are a set of nice to have features more relevant for larger teams. Those features are not MIT.

Re: Launch HN: Danswer (YC W24) – Open-source AI search and chat over private data

#133

I think dust.tt is open source as well. Is there a difference here?

Ya, I haven't dug too deep into their project, to be honest. But we do think it's great more teams are going for open source.

I tried to look up their RAG pipeline to see if they've invested effort into building a strong retrieval. It looks like they have a more basic vector only search, not sure if it's running local models or using a cloud service. On the flip side, it looks like they have assistants that can take actions (which we don't do), so maybe that's their focus.

I can only speculate as I've never spoken with their team but I imagine they're working closely with a few specific teams judging based on their number of connectors. Most likely it was built for specific customers. We are leaning more into the open source and working with our community and letting people self-host easily to find value with no friction.

Re: Launch HN: Danswer (YC W24) – Open-source AI search and chat over private data

#134

Feels like the big missing piece is being able to index an s3 bucket. Is s3 API compatibility on the roadmap?

We have a connector interface and build guide for contributors: https://github.com/danswer-ai/danswer/blob/main/backend/dans...

Should be not too bad to build one out! Fun fact, more than half the connectors were built entirely by community members who needed them for their own teams and we're super grateful when they contribute it back to the repo.

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