I have the feeling the first part was review manipulated and therefore has the image of being good while just being mediocre and forgettable.
Or, you know, people have different opinion.
Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade
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#172I loved the book but the story imo has not aged well. Too much of white savior going on and too much colonialism. I would not describe myself as "woke", I can see why the teenage me loved it, yet my adult self cringes too hard. Particularly now as multiple post-colonial wars are happening. Also, I do not think a mega-promoted mega-budget Hollywood blockbuster needs more marketing here. "Esquire says" - so what?
White savior?
Did you even watch the movie?
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#173Eh, they kept all the silly stuff from the book, the atomic bombs, the boring desert sections, way too much exposition, the insurgency and holy war aspects that barely seem like fiction considering recent world events, and like all movies nowadays it's way too long.
> and like all movies nowadays it's way too long.
If I wanted a TV show, I would watch Netflix.
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#174"of the Decade"? Author using that phrase again, and they're serious about writing off the next 6 years? Will see how that ages. Would have been safe to say "of the last ten years" no?
> Author using that phrase again, and they're serious about writing off the next 6 years?
Given that nothing serious been announced yet, it’s a pretty safe bet.
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#175Have not seen par two yet but the irst film is a visually stunning and thematically rich adaptation that does justice to its source material.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
They likely won't get to that point. I expect them to end this Dune like the 80s Dune ended or very close. The points you bring up are really 2nd book and beyond and I suspect trying to add that in would just confuse people who don't already know the Dune story. They would also be tough to communicate in a video format, as compared to a book, as the depth will be lost. Regardless, I'm anxious to watch part 2 of the c…
I'm pretty sure Denis Villeneuve has said on the record that he plans on adapting Dune Messiah if the movies are successful, which is a great bookend to Paul Atreides story.
Not sure I'd call it the bookend, unless you consider the preacher from Children to have been something that was just knocked off the shelf...
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
I do think it's inevitable that a film adaptation will let down any major fan of the original book. There's simply a barrier between media that cannot be reconciled, certainly not for any story as complex and expansive as Dune. (Sounds like this movie is at least three parts, for what it's worth.)
Not to mention so much internal dialog. Hard to translate into film.
This is why doing Messiah is going to be such a challenge, even moreso than the first book. 80's SFX almost lend themselves to handling internal monologue BETTER than modern effects, as the idea was just to signal a suspension of disbelief, rather than to go for the hyper-realism that modern effects evoke.
We'll see.
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#178I feel like I live in a different reality to the other viewers of the new Dunes "Best Sci-Fi of the decade"?? They're both some of the dullest sci-fi movies I've ever seen, especially compared to the Lynch one. Disgracefully I imagine that few people saw the extended two-parts version of the Lynch movie, and were burned by the insanely shortened ending and the other cuts of the theatrical one. I recommend checking th…
Never heard the Lynch one called junk. But I do think some people don't value proper theatrics, and are just special effects junkies.
I'm still annoyed at how much was cut out of part 1 despite it being as long as it was. I get going for ambience but the whole banquet scene was missing. None of Duncan suspecting Lady Jessica. Duke Leto is barely developed as a character at all.
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Plenty of good sci-fi, but mostly on TV. Still, you're also probably overlooking how common sci-fi films are. Like say, Ad Astra with Brad Pitt (2019). The Martian in 2015. Blade Runner 2049 . And so on.
> Plenty of good sci-fi, but mostly on TV. Care to share? I can't name a single one besides 'The Expanse'.
First season of Altered Carbon was good. Also The Peripheral, albeit canceled before its time. Glad Gibson went with Apple to finally let someone take a crack at putting Neuromancer on screen; they're the only ones I'd trust not to cut it short too.
Still waiting for someone to put Daemon and Freedom(tm) on a screen of any size; that could get fun, but probably would need to be a series to avoid cutting out way too much.
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agree, Dune for me was one, Inception being another. I liked Moon(small budget but excellent), interstellar was ok. And thats about it.
I'd put Everything Everywhere All at Once on that list, depending how you define sci-fi. One of the best films of the decade, in my opinion.
SciFi TV and movies ALL depend how you define SciFi, as arguably most of what passes for it is more like fantasy or horror with the aesthetics of something ...sciencey.
Good thing I like those genres too.