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Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by Jnr »

js4ever wrote: post #117
mavamaarten wrote: post #30

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I'm really happy with immich. It's amazing how well everything works and how feature-complete it is given how relatively young the project is and fast-moving development is going. I self-host an instance and do a nightly backup with duplicati to cloud storage. The only downside for me is that there's a new release almost every couple of days, with a message that the backend is out of date. Which is both a pro and a c…

I can confirm there is a breaking change literally every single week, check here: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/7405#discus... It's a great software but I would not recommend it at all because of this and the answer from the authors about the issue

I have 600GB of data with 70K+ photos and videos in Immich.

I have been using it for some time now, and none of the "breaking changes" broke anything because they have excellent release notes.

Worst case - you can restore your postgre backup (which you make, right?) and try again, reading release notes. I make backups and I read release notes, luckily didn't need to do a restore yet.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by anneessens »

vishnumohandas wrote: post #82
kosolam wrote: post #72

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Do you provide an easy migration from google photos with full quality? The instructions in the FAQ are a bit vague. Last time I heard about this, Google takeout won’t let you download the full quality images.

Google Takeout downloads the images in full quality. But it splits your metadata (like capture time, geo coordinates) and places them in a separate sidecar file. This isn't an issue if you're migrating to Ente because during import the desktop app[1] will merge the metadata with their respective files. If it's for you to keep a local copy, you will unfortunately need to write some scripts. There's in fact a paid prod…

Is it possible to use this import tool for my own local files without an Ente subscription? Because I have that metadata issue with Google Photos, but unfortunately I don't have the programming skills to write a script.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by contrarian1234 »

Sayrus wrote: post #168
contrarian1234 wrote: post #156

I don't really get the business model. An open source stack makes sense for products targeted towards programmers. Out of curiosity I checked Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/plans/storage 9 USD per month gives you 2TB storage (vs. 500GB here) I don't really get what justifies the 4x price (some of the features look like what you can get from a Gallery app like Aves) So it's looking kinda DOA to me. The intersection…

> I don't really get the business model. An open source stack makes sense for products targeted towards programmers. > Most people that back up their pics in ~the cloud~ won't have the technical skills to do self-host Which is why they are offering a managed service as well. Even people with the technical skills are not always inclined to selfhost. > With Dropbox I guess you could accomplish the same, but you'd need…

You're getting butthurt about stuff that's not relevant. The point is the encryption is: 1 - trivial to layer yourself 2 - not a viable business model

You just need to look at Signal. It's at the same price ($0) as its competition (not 4x). And messages you can't really encryption yourself. It's still struggling to get a market foothold.

Yeah, it'd be great to have Google/Dropbox/etc with privacy. Sure. Nothing wrong with that. But you also have to pay the bills and feed your babies. This isn't a charity. Maybe I'm missing something, but this product make no sense in the market. They can't even match the market prices. They're toast

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by vishnumohandas »

anneessens wrote: post #174
vishnumohandas wrote: post #82

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Google Takeout downloads the images in full quality. But it splits your metadata (like capture time, geo coordinates) and places them in a separate sidecar file. This isn't an issue if you're migrating to Ente because during import the desktop app[1] will merge the metadata with their respective files. If it's for you to keep a local copy, you will unfortunately need to write some scripts. There's in fact a paid prod…

Is it possible to use this import tool for my own local files without an Ente subscription? Because I have that metadata issue with Google Photos, but unfortunately I don't have the programming skills to write a script.

Not right now, sorry!

There's this tool that can fix capture times: https://github.com/mattwilson1024/google-photos-exif

There are perhaps more that I'm unaware of.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by vishnumohandas »

raj2569 wrote: post #169
vishnumohandas wrote: post #32

Hey, Ente's CEO here. We had opensourced our server[1] yesterday, which is perhaps why we are on the front page. Stoked to be here Ente had launched on HN[2] a while ago and has been sustainably growing since. We took the feedback from our Show HN seriously and have since - undergone a cryptography audit [3] - published our replication strategy [4] - added requested features (family plans, collaborative albums and li…

Do you have an import from smugmug? I have been a smugmug user for about 19 years and finally thinking of moving on...

Not yet, but you should be able to drag-and-drop the data on your disk into Ente's desktop app[1].

Please note that if you're primarily using SmugMug to store RAW files, their support (in terms of previewing capabilities) is limited right now. It's on our roadmap, and we will prioritize it, but just wanted to give you a heads up.

[1]: https://ente.io/download/desktop

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by yau8edq12i »

diggan wrote: post #152
yau8edq12i wrote: post #147

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How often do you move or delete your backed up photos?

Or add to your collection. Depends on how many people you are who use the same NAS and how many photos you take. Sure, if you upload 10 photos a week and never do any other reads, go with a SSD for all I care, it'll last long enough.

If you don't move or delete old photos, all new photos will be written to a new cell. The writes add up for cells, not for the whole SSD...

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by yau8edq12i »

darkwater wrote: post #87
yau8edq12i wrote: post #40

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To be fair, the underlying storage of the synology won't last forever. A cheap SSD might reliably last five years, a nice one, about ten years, as far as I know. You also need to pay for the electricity necessary to keep your server running 24/7, if you want a service level equivalent to a cloud storage service. All this adds up. The scales will probably stay in favor of the self-hosting options, but you have to take…

> A cheap SSD might reliably last five years, a nice one, about ten years, as far as I know. Solution: a RAID system with 5 reliable disks and you replace 2 of them every 5th year, and the other 3 in the following 4 years.

You expect this to be cheaper and/or easier than cloud hosting?
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