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Mathematicians prove Pólya's conjecture for the eigenvalues of a disk

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Re: Mathematicians prove Pólya's conjecture for the eigenvalues of a disk

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The title words remind of an unrelated fact, Gershgorin Disks: The eigenvalues of any N x N matrix, A, are contained in the union of N discs in the complex plane. The center of the i_th disc is the i_th diagonal element of A. The radius of the i_th disc is the absolute values of the off-diagonal elements in the i_th row. https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2019/05/22/gershgorin-disc... It's rather remarkable, unexpecte…

Sounds very cool. One thing I didn’t understand though:

> The radius of the i_th disc is the absolute values

How can a radius of a single disc (i.e. a single value) correspond to multiple values?

Re: Mathematicians prove Pólya's conjecture for the eigenvalues of a disk

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The title words remind of an unrelated fact, Gershgorin Disks: The eigenvalues of any N x N matrix, A, are contained in the union of N discs in the complex plane. The center of the i_th disc is the i_th diagonal element of A. The radius of the i_th disc is the absolute values of the off-diagonal elements in the i_th row. https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2019/05/22/gershgorin-disc... It's rather remarkable, unexpecte…

What was the noise cancelling project? How did you use this fact to cancel noise?

Re: Mathematicians prove Pólya's conjecture for the eigenvalues of a disk

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The title words remind of an unrelated fact, Gershgorin Disks: The eigenvalues of any N x N matrix, A, are contained in the union of N discs in the complex plane. The center of the i_th disc is the i_th diagonal element of A. The radius of the i_th disc is the absolute values of the off-diagonal elements in the i_th row. https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2019/05/22/gershgorin-disc... It's rather remarkable, unexpecte…

Sounds very cool. One thing I didn’t understand though: > The radius of the i_th disc is the absolute values How can a radius of a single disc (i.e. a single value) correspond to multiple values?

I’m assuming, but could be wrong as my matrix math ended with GameDev, that the radius of the disk = the absolute values of the other things. +\- depending on which side of the disk they fall?

That line got me as well.

Re: Mathematicians prove Pólya's conjecture for the eigenvalues of a disk

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The title words remind of an unrelated fact, Gershgorin Disks: The eigenvalues of any N x N matrix, A, are contained in the union of N discs in the complex plane. The center of the i_th disc is the i_th diagonal element of A. The radius of the i_th disc is the absolute values of the off-diagonal elements in the i_th row. https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2019/05/22/gershgorin-disc... It's rather remarkable, unexpecte…

Sounds very cool. One thing I didn’t understand though: > The radius of the i_th disc is the absolute values How can a radius of a single disc (i.e. a single value) correspond to multiple values?

If you look at the link there’s a formula showing it’s the sum.

Re: Mathematicians prove Pólya's conjecture for the eigenvalues of a disk

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds very cool. One thing I didn’t understand though: > The radius of the i_th disc is the absolute values How can a radius of a single disc (i.e. a single value) correspond to multiple values?

If you look at the link there’s a formula showing it’s the sum.

Specifically:

    r_i = \sum_{i \ne j} |A_{i j}|

Re: Mathematicians prove Pólya's conjecture for the eigenvalues of a disk

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Mathematicians prove that you can deduce the shape of disk based on the frequencies it produces when you hit it with a stick.

I can deduce the disk's shape without even hitting it. It's a disk.

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Re: Mathematicians prove Pólya's conjecture for the eigenvalues of a disk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds very cool. One thing I didn’t understand though: > The radius of the i_th disc is the absolute values How can a radius of a single disc (i.e. a single value) correspond to multiple values?

I’m assuming, but could be wrong as my matrix math ended with GameDev, that the radius of the disk = the absolute values of the other things. +\- depending on which side of the disk they fall? That line got me as well.

It's missing the word "sum". Which apparently my brain auto-deduced for me because I didn't notice anything off in the sentence on the first reading.

Re: Mathematicians prove Pólya's conjecture for the eigenvalues of a disk

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The title words remind of an unrelated fact, Gershgorin Disks: The eigenvalues of any N x N matrix, A, are contained in the union of N discs in the complex plane. The center of the i_th disc is the i_th diagonal element of A. The radius of the i_th disc is the absolute values of the off-diagonal elements in the i_th row. https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2019/05/22/gershgorin-disc... It's rather remarkable, unexpecte…

Matrix theory by Franklin is a great, affordable book containing many interesting results such as this — can highly recommend for those interested in linear algebra.

https://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Theory-Dover-Books-Mathematics...

Re: Mathematicians prove Pólya's conjecture for the eigenvalues of a disk

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I haven't read the paper, but does it apply to arbitrarily shaped drums? And if the basis can be arbitrarily large, is this an exciting result? It just says that the spectral domain is isomorphic?

This result only applies to circular disks, spherical balls and their generalisations in higher dimensions. Previously it was known for shapes which tile the plane or tessellate the space in higher dimensions.
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