With LLMs taking over and everything artificially generated, we seem to enter a new world where i see there isn't anything as truth. nothing has come from human experience, suffering, it just simply is created by AI. I can't wrap my head around this. how to make sense of it.
What is Truth in this new AI world and how to make sense of it
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Re: What is Truth in this new AI world and how to make sense of it
#2It's worrying to read such anxiety, but take heart that
your premises are wrong.
LLMs are not "taking over". We're in another technology hype cycle. Unlike block-chains this one is more understandable by the masses, and more worrying to media types who always breathlessly trumpet everything. They now feel their jobs threatened (even more) by the race to the bottom of low quality crap that global corporatism ultimately produces.
If you go outside, take your head out of your phone, and walk around, in a few hours you will see no evidence whatsoever that "everything is artificially generated".
There is no "new world" afoot, no more than there was new world when the printing press, steam engine or microprocessor arrived. It will be the same old world with some people trying to make benevolent use of technology, some cynically exploiting it for nothing but money, and the vast majority bumbling cluelessly along without care for the consequences one way or another.
> where i see there isn't anything as truth. nothing has come from human experience, suffering, it just simply is created by AI. I can't wrap my head around this. how to make sense of it.
Truth was always hard to find. There will be less "easy and convenient truth". And all that generative AI does is regurgitate reconfigurations of all the human experience it has been fed with.
I think what you, and many others are feeling and fearing is not existential or epistemological crisis, but a massive rejection of all the derelict values that brought us to this shallow, empty juncture. It's probably good that dies. We simply do not value truth any more anyway. It's good that you're questioning that.
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#4You assume you can find the truth from beliefs, words, sentences etc. Those all are human constructs which changes over time, location, personal age, mood etc.
The truth cannot be explained or written down.
You have to find it yourself.
If you are serious about truth, going for a Vipassana retreat might be a good start.
https://www.dhamma.org/en/index
This is not everyone's cup of tea. Especially if you are suffering from Psychological issues.
Re: What is Truth in this new AI world and how to make sense of it
#5It's worrying to read such anxiety, but take heart that your premises are wrong. LLMs are not "taking over". We're in another technology hype cycle. Unlike block-chains this one is more understandable by the masses, and more worrying to media types who always breathlessly trumpet everything. They now feel their jobs threatened (even more) by the race to the bottom of low quality crap that global corporatism ultimatel…
Thank you for this response. A beacon of sense in this craze <3
Re: What is Truth in this new AI world and how to make sense of it
#6It's worrying to read such anxiety, but take heart that your premises are wrong. LLMs are not "taking over". We're in another technology hype cycle. Unlike block-chains this one is more understandable by the masses, and more worrying to media types who always breathlessly trumpet everything. They now feel their jobs threatened (even more) by the race to the bottom of low quality crap that global corporatism ultimatel…
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Re: What is Truth in this new AI world and how to make sense of it
#7Consider, have you ever known truth? how do you know?
Everything you experience is generated by your mind, you do not have a firsthand experience of what's out there. You are a brain in a skull, yet you see light and feel spacious and you feel like a body. It is all generated similar to a dream which is also generated.
Fun fact, I practice lucid dreaming and to become lucid I check to see if I'm dreaming by looking at my hand. If my hand looks AI generated, then I'm dreaming. Interpret as you wish.
Another fun fact, before you even know you have made a decision, your brain has made that decision for you. This is documented. So thinking you made a decision is an illusion.
Finally, what is a tree? a label, if I ask you to define a tree you will tell me it branches, trunk, leaves, root. What is leaf? a green thin layer used to generate food. What is green? ... you practice this and you realize even though you can function in a network of words, you don't actually know what any of these words really mean. So, again, you have never know the Truth. And never will.
So, I suggest, learn to relax; whatever happens trust that you can navigate it like everyone else. Plus how do you know it won't lead us to utopia?
Re: What is Truth in this new AI world and how to make sense of it
#8Consider, have you ever known truth? how do you know? Everything you experience is generated by your mind, you do not have a firsthand experience of what's out there. You are a brain in a skull, yet you see light and feel spacious and you feel like a body. It is all generated similar to a dream which is also generated. Fun fact, I practice lucid dreaming and to become lucid I check to see if I'm dreaming by looking a…
This sort of postmodern deconstruction of everything leads to an endless pit of nothing. Why even write that comment? What are words even? Let alone letters? Why is a capital A three lines? What are lines? Why are vectors? Why is anything?
Pffft. Get off my lawn.
Re: What is Truth in this new AI world and how to make sense of it
#9You assume you can find the truth from beliefs, words, sentences etc. Those all are human constructs which changes over time, location, personal age, mood etc. The truth cannot be explained or written down. You have to find it yourself. If you are serious about truth, going for a Vipassana retreat might be a good start. https://www.dhamma.org/en/index This is not everyone's cup of tea. Especially if you are suffering…
Yes, meditation is great, but also it has some non-trivial levels of risk. Do your research before going.
Re: What is Truth in this new AI world and how to make sense of it
#10The question: What is Truth? has been bothering people for a long time. Probably as soon as humans started to be able to talk about not so simple things. Many philosophers have spent thoughts about that. Religions popped up to give a simple answer to this question.
Somehow the experience of AI seems to trigger this question.
My take: There's no such thing as Truth. Everything is empty, and so is Truth.
Once someone wrote, God is all-powerful, so God could make it that all religions on Earth are true simultaneously. If God were not all-powerful then God could not make it so. Where is then Truth?
Descartes once thought, what if he sees and thinks is an illusion? What if he is alone on the world and all the people he interacted with are only a figment of his deeper, instinctive imagination?
Even Buddha had an answer. The desire to find Truth is one of the wants. Let it go and you'll find pease.
There are many thoughts about Truth. These thoughts are not really related to AI, but the experience of AI triggers these thoughts in many people.